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Tokarev question

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 3:41 am
by steelbuttplate
My Romy Tokarev is hanging 1-2 rounds per mag, with ball or HP. I've polished the feed ramp, tried several different mags, greased the slide. The recoil spring may be weak. Does it need to be stretched or compressed ? I've found a new one to order but want to try this first.

Re: Tokarev question

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 3:32 pm
by Junk Yard Dog
Shitty ammo? Have you tried a different brand?

Re: Tokarev question

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 3:42 pm
by steelbuttplate
Junk Yard Dog wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2020 3:32 pm Shitty ammo? Have you tried a different brand?
Three kinds, including Romanian ball. The round is hanging at the feed ramp, pull the slide back and it's going again. Three different magazines, including a factory new old stock Russian. The question is, to make the spring stronger, does it need to be stretched, or compressed ? The purpose of the spring is to return the slide after the blow back, right? So to compresse it and make it tighter would make it work better ? Am I right ?

Re: Tokarev question

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 5:44 pm
by Junk Yard Dog
steelbuttplate wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2020 3:42 pm
Junk Yard Dog wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2020 3:32 pm Shitty ammo? Have you tried a different brand?
Three kinds, including Romanian ball. The round is hanging at the feed ramp, pull the slide back and it's going again. Three different magazines, including a factory new old stock Russian. The question is, to make the spring stronger, does it need to be stretched, or compressed ? The purpose of the spring is to return the slide after the blow back, right? So to compresse it and make it tighter would make it work better ? Am I right ?
I am unfamiliar with these pistols, we need one of the gunsmiths to chime in on this question. Springs get weak with age and use, coil or flat springs. When this happens on musket locks, or other mechanical devices I replace the suspect spring with a new one.

Re: Tokarev question

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 6:12 pm
by steelbuttplate
I found a video of a 1903 Browning in operation, very similar in design. The spring getting compressed in the blowback pushes the slide forward, so just the opposite of what I was thinking. Stretching the spring would make it stronger. Gunsmiths please tell I'm right. :bonk:

Re: Tokarev question

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:37 am
by steelbuttplate
steelbuttplate wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2020 6:12 pm I found a video of a 1903 Browning in operation, very similar in design. The spring getting compressed in the blowback pushes the slide forward, so just the opposite of what I was thinking. Stretching the spring would make it stronger. Gunsmiths please tell I'm right. :bonk:
I stretched the spring 1&1/2 " longer than it was, stuffed it back in the gun. I ran 1 mag of HP PPU and 3 mags Romanian ball thru it with no feed failure. :2cents:

Re: Tokarev question

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:37 pm
by ffuries
steelbuttplate wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:37 am
steelbuttplate wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2020 6:12 pm I found a video of a 1903 Browning in operation, very similar in design. The spring getting compressed in the blowback pushes the slide forward, so just the opposite of what I was thinking. Stretching the spring would make it stronger. Gunsmiths please tell I'm right. :bonk:
I stretched the spring 1&1/2 " longer than it was, stuffed it back in the gun. I ran 1 mag of HP PPU and 3 mags Romanian ball thru it with no feed failure. :2cents:
Guess that means it could use a new spring, as the original seems to be getting tired in its old age......

Re: Tokarev question

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 4:54 pm
by Longcolt44

Re: Tokarev question

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 5:58 pm
by steelbuttplate
Longcolt44 wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 4:54 pm Here is your fix, https://www.gunsprings.com/TOKAREV/cID1/mID68/dID294
Thanks Longcolt, I was about to pay more for the one spring than one of those service packs. Great deal.

Re: Tokarev question

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:11 pm
by AMCHornet
Springs that have weakened with age are generally only weakened further by stretching them. Keep an eye on it.

Re: Tokarev question

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:17 am
by steelbuttplate
steelbuttplate wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 5:58 pm
Longcolt44 wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 4:54 pm Here is your fix, https://www.gunsprings.com/TOKAREV/cID1/mID68/dID294
Thanks Longcolt, I was about to pay more for the one spring than one of those service packs. Great deal.
Only attempt this in a place where you can find your parts when they go flying about. It takes several attempts and a good deal of cussing to get these back together with new springs. :2cents:

Re: Tokarev question

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:35 am
by SA1911a1
steelbuttplate wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 5:58 pm
Longcolt44 wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 4:54 pm Here is your fix, https://www.gunsprings.com/TOKAREV/cID1/mID68/dID294
Thanks Longcolt, I was about to pay more for the one spring than one of those service packs. Great deal.
The company is having a slow turnaround right now. I have had a spring pack on order for over three weeks. But it will come.

Re: Tokarev question

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:32 pm
by petros600
I had similar issues with my Yugo M57's and replacing the spring solve the problem. I believe wolf is offering recoil springs for TT's