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"Submitting for the Fall Rifle Contest"

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 7:07 pm
by kagero43
I would like to submit this rifle for the Fall Rifle Contest, thank you:

Mosin-Nagant 91/30 PU Sniper
TULA Arsenal dated 1944


BACKGROUND
I purchased this rifle in May 2012 upon spotting it on a gun rack at a sporting goods store in cottage country about 2 hours from where I live (it is my first Mosin Nagant). While I am not an expert in Mosin Nagants (let alone MS snipers), I knew immediately that it was unique by the age, wear, and overall patina on both the gun, scope mount, and scope. I then noticed it had no import, refurbish, or electric pencil markings whatsoever - just a original but replaced PU scope done by a war-time arsenal. After some quick internet searching for info on Mosin snipers to ensure some comfort level before purchasing, I ended up trading a few things for it and paying about $600 out of pocket. The condition of the rifle when purchased was very dirty with a bore that was not cleaned in a very very long time. Loose screws needed tightening but otherwise in usable condition. No one at the the store knows anything about this gun. So far from feedback on the forums, it is an original issue WW2 Mosin Nagant sniper rifle. There is speculation that it could be one of the early guns to arrive either as a veteran bring back or imported prior to the fall of the iron curtain and before shipments of post-war re-arsenal WW2 pieces.

FIREARM DETAILS
The mount appears to be Izhevsk, but has rifle serial stamped on it that would appear to be from another Tula PU rifle. The bolt is Tula. The receiver is a reworked Izhevsk high wall, which is also very common on Tula PU rifles built in '43 and '44. The scope number on the barrel shank could likely be for a 1944 scope built at KOMZ, GOMZ, or factory 297 at Yoshkar Ola.

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Receiver is properly marked “CH” for a TULA “sniper”, with matching numbers on receiver, bottom mag plate, and bolt
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Barrel shank number on Tula is apparently correct but uncommon.
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Tula stamps appear on smaller parts as well (e.g., barrel bands), suggesting an unrefurbished rifle.
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Wood stock is not shellacked and appears in original finish and condition ( a very Matt finish). No markings on the stock except a number mark.
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Leather sling appears original as well.
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The cleaning rod is a replacement given newer blue finish and Soviet refurb mark.
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Scope is original Krasnogorsk Plant and made of early version metal alloy. Scope finish is painted black enamel which is correct for this type of scope. There are also no refurb markings on the scope showing again that it is original factory. Scope, and scope mount are original.
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kagero43

PU Sniper for consideration in the "Showcase"

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 7:16 pm
by Kyle
That is a very beautiful looking rifle.

Kyle

Re: PU Sniper for consideration in the "Showcase"

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 7:57 pm
by desdem12
Very Nice. :vcool: :vcool:

Re: PU Sniper for consideration in the "Showcase"

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:12 pm
by Mike
Beautiful!

Re: PU Sniper for consideration in the "Showcase"

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:20 pm
by finloq
Great photography as well.

Re: PU Sniper for consideration in the "Showcase"

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:55 pm
by awpk03s
Nice rifle! How does it shoot?

Re: PU Sniper for consideration in the "Showcase"

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:12 pm
by Themosinkid95
The magazine floor plate looks like a stamped one instead of milled one which is rare

Re: PU Sniper for consideration in the "Showcase"

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:57 pm
by Izhevsk762
Themosinkid95 wrote:The magazine floor plate looks like a stamped one instead of milled one which is rare
Yep. That feature appears only on 1944 Tula rifles, and lends credit to it not being a refurb.

The sling looks Romanian to me...

Re: PU Sniper for consideration in the "Showcase"

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 5:30 am
by martin08
Showcase? Why isn't it there already!!!!

Thumbs up on the presentation, too. But a non-refurb sniper is really the show stopper here. Congrats, and nice gun.

Re: PU Sniper for consideration in the "Showcase"

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 5:37 am
by Junk Yard Dog
Ron hasn't had a chance to see it yet, he is handling the showcase, Holiday time, give him a chance to look it over and confer with the rifles owner if need be. It is a nice looking rifle :)

Re: PU Sniper for consideration in the "Showcase"

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:14 am
by Knuckledragger
Great rifle-Love it!

Re: PU Sniper for consideration in the "Showcase"

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:21 am
by martin08
Junk Yard Dog wrote:Ron hasn't had a chance to see it yet, he is handling the showcase, Holiday time, give him a chance to look it over and confer with the rifles owner if need be. It is a nice looking rifle :)
I know that he gets compensated well for his Moderator duties, $60,000 - plus per year. But does he get paid vacations, too?

Re: PU Sniper for consideration in the "Showcase"

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:51 am
by Junk Yard Dog
Yes, a trip to Izhevsk Russia during the winter months :)
He flies third class on board a former Soviet military cargo jet.


Re: PU Sniper for consideration in the "Showcase"

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 10:01 am
by desdem12
I like the fancy song in the izhevsk city vid in the lower right corner. :thumbsup:

Re: PU Sniper for consideration in the "Showcase"

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 10:03 am
by Junk Yard Dog
I like the bit in one video were they showed walls of snow higher than peoples heads as they walked down the street. :)

Re: PU Sniper for consideration in the "Showcase"

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:01 am
by bunkysdad
I tell you what. Snipers, even nice ones don't really wow me all that much, but this one about knocked me out of my socks! Spectacular.:P

Re: PU Sniper for consideration in the "Showcase"

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 1:12 pm
by Rongo
So forgive me... I'm slow.

You guys don't need my permission... If there's a consensus by all means post it up on the Showcase & send me a message!! I truly apologize for not seeing this earlier. :oops:

Re: PU Sniper for consideration in the "Showcase"

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 1:24 pm
by Three_Dogs
First time I read this thread. Very nice find, Thanks for sharing this GEM.

Re: PU Sniper for consideration in the "Showcase"

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:27 pm
by Jumperwire
Wow :big shock: Like, how did I miss this one. :Drool1: I love it. Has that "been there, done that look" of a hard nosed battle rifle. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: Thanks for sharing :D :D

Re: PU Sniper for consideration in the "Showcase"

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:27 pm
by finloq
It certainly blows the current batch of Molot refurbs out of the water. I have never really been into snipers, so the current craze has not interested me. This fantastic presentation makes me wish I had paid more attention to them a few years ago.