45-70 brass or dies help?

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45-70 brass or dies help?

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Hey ladies and gents, I'm having a hell of a time finding brass or reloading dies to work up some 45-70 loads for my new to me 2009 marlin 1895 cb. If any of you have any spare brass or dies you are willing to let go please pm me. Thanks!
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I just received a set of RCBS 45-70 dies from Shiloh Sharps. You may try them. They are steel dies.
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RudyN wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:54 pm I just received a set of RCBS 45-70 dies from Shiloh Sharps. You may try them. They are steel dies.
Thanks for the tip! Just ordered a set from them this morning. Were you able to find a place to get a shellholder?
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Well, good luck on the 45-70 Government brass.
I tried the other day and couldn't find any anywhere.
I have about 50 rounds loaded and about 50 unloaded right now> I was going to load up another 100 rounds. BUT, no brass anywhere.
I have almost 2000 primers, and plenty of powder, but I see those are tough to get also. I cast my own bullets, so that is just lead.

It is troubling to see these shortages. All because of these "buying frenzy" that is going on. Everyone is making brass for "other" caliburs.

Sad. I'll keep looking Around, and if I find something, I'll post it here.

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Darryl wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:40 am Well, good luck on the 45-70 Government brass.
I tried the other day and couldn't find any anywhere.
I have about 50 rounds loaded and about 50 unloaded right now> I was going to load up another 100 rounds. BUT, no brass anywhere.
I have almost 2000 primers, and plenty of powder, but I see those are tough to get also. I cast my own bullets, so that is just lead.

It is troubling to see these shortages. All because of these "buying frenzy" that is going on. Everyone is making brass for "other" caliburs.

Sad. I'll keep looking Around, and if I find something, I'll post it here.

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Hi Darryl, thanks for the reply. I saw starline brass being auctioned off GB but other than that no dice.
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Willchef wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:51 am
Darryl wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:40 am Well, good luck on the 45-70 Government brass.
I tried the other day and couldn't find any anywhere.
I have about 50 rounds loaded and about 50 unloaded right now> I was going to load up another 100 rounds. BUT, no brass anywhere.
I have almost 2000 primers, and plenty of powder, but I see those are tough to get also. I cast my own bullets, so that is just lead.

It is troubling to see these shortages. All because of these "buying frenzy" that is going on. Everyone is making brass for "other" caliburs.

Sad. I'll keep looking Around, and if I find something, I'll post it here.

Darryl
Hi Darryl, thanks for the reply. I saw starline brass being auctioned off GB but other than that no dice.
Well, we have been at this point at least once before when President Obama took over. There was a huge gun scare back then also. It took a while before it settled back down (at higher prices).

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Willchef wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:20 am
RudyN wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:54 pm I just received a set of RCBS 45-70 dies from Shiloh Sharps. You may try them. They are steel dies.
Thanks for the tip! Just ordered a set from them this morning. Were you able to find a place to get a shellholder?
I haven't looked for a shell holder yet as my sharps is on order and Shiloh takes about a year before they start building them so I am in no hurry. I will check on the few shall holders I have and will see if I have to look for one or not.
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I found shell holders for 45-70. They are still out there and don't seem to be a shortage....yet.

I contacted Starline (only makers of empty 45-70 cases). They said they are so behind on other cases, that it might be a year till they get back in stock.

So, you can buy Loaded ammo at $1.90 a round and fire the round (if your rifle can handle it) and you have a "case".
Don't fire these in a old Trapdoor or something. For those, open the round up and dump the powder charge and use the primer, case, and bullet again.
https://www.gun-deals.com/list/ammo/.45-70
https://www.laxammo.com/barnes-45-70-govt-300-gr-tsnfn-20-rds-21579-detail

I guess this will work!

The brass (if available) is around $.60 a round. I know $2 a round is a lot higher but, remember, you get a bullet and a primer also. So that makes it "hurt" a little less! ;mywink;

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Darryl wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:44 pm I found shell holders for 45-70. They are still out there and don't seem to be a shortage....yet.

I contacted Starline (only makers of empty 45-70 cases). They said they are so behind on other cases, that it might be a year till they get back in stock.

So, you can buy Loaded ammo at $1.90 a round and fire the round (if your rifle can handle it) and you have a "case".
Don't fire these in a old Trapdoor or something. For those, open the round up and dump the powder charge and use the primer, case, and bullet again.
https://www.gun-deals.com/list/ammo/.45-70
https://www.laxammo.com/barnes-45-70-govt-300-gr-tsnfn-20-rds-21579-detail

I guess this will work!

The brass (if available) is around $.60 a round. I know $2 a round is a lot higher but, remember, you get a bullet and a primer also. So that makes it "hurt" a little less! ;mywink;

Darryl
I haven't had any luck finding shell holders, may I ask where you found them available? 😇 The loaded ammo was my first choice to acquire however everywhere around me is out of loaded 45-70 and Californiastan won't allow me to order online so the hunt continues...
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Darryl wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:44 pm I found shell holders for 45-70. They are still out there and don't seem to be a shortage....yet.

I contacted Starline (only makers of empty 45-70 cases). They said they are so behind on other cases, that it might be a year till they get back in stock.

So, you can buy Loaded ammo at $1.90 a round and fire the round (if your rifle can handle it) and you have a "case".
Don't fire these in a old Trapdoor or something. For those, open the round up and dump the powder charge and use the primer, case, and bullet again.
https://www.gun-deals.com/list/ammo/.45-70
https://www.laxammo.com/barnes-45-70-govt-300-gr-tsnfn-20-rds-21579-detail

I guess this will work!

The brass (if available) is around $.60 a round. I know $2 a round is a lot higher but, remember, you get a bullet and a primer also. So that makes it "hurt" a little less! ;mywink;

Darryl
Well as luck would have it I found some grizzly 45-70 loaded ammo and a shell holder at my local store today. Store limit was two boxes of twenty but I have something to shoot and everything I need now to get reloading. 😁
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In case OP is still looking, midwayusa.com has the .45/70 dies in stock.
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Not sure where you live or if you have any local ranges near you? I got my 45-70 brass at my local range. I got 100 cases used brass I paid $40.00. Some were for lever guns which is shorter than the trap door I shoot, maybe 10%. I deprimed them and tumbled them. They look good as new!
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