Wehrmann Gewehr, 1940 Banner Target Mauser

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Wehrmann Gewehr, 1940 Banner Target Mauser

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Following WWI and the Treaty of Versailles, Germany was restricted from producing the 8X57 rifle or ammunition. So Germany developed a new round, the 8.15X46r, and was allowed to build a Serviceman's Rifle (Wehrmann Gewehr) for target and sporting purposes. These guns were generally used for hunting or in clubs, for target and marksmanship purposes. Some of the clubs had specifically marked guns. The reduced powder charge and lead projectile was generally effective out to 200 yards.

The military style version was full stocked with bayonet lug, and was generally built on the GEW 98 receiver with a new barrel. Many were restricted to single shot. In the early to mid 1930's, the Nazi Regime ignored the terms of the WWI treaty and began production of their new Mauser, the K98k. However, they continued with the Wehrmann Gewehr, though in diminished numbers, almost to the end of the war. Approximately 8,000 were built between 1939 and 1945.

The following is one of the scarcely seen Mauser Banner target rifles with a windage adjustable rear sight out to 175m, and built in 1940. If there is a better looking war-time Mauser out there, this one has to be a very close second.

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Wow! Really nice example. No I doubt you could find a better surviving example.
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:vcool: :vcool: :vcool: :vcool: In the middle of all out war and they were still building this? With most everyone in uniform, or in a factory, or dead, question would be who had time to aquire or use these in 1939-45 period?
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I was wondering the same thing JYD was. Why would they produce such a Rifle at the height of war? Especially late war 1944 and 1945 when supplies were extremely scarce?


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Lots of little potential Nazis waiting in the wings learning how to shoot?
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It is amazing that they expended the resources and manpower during the war, but they did. Soldiers on leave were required to keep up with marksmanship skills, and would attend the clubs for range time. Here are the serial number ranges from 1938 to 1945.

1938-39, SN range 118715+- 122285
1940, SN range 122962-124264
1941, SN range 124264+- 124908
1942, SN range 124908+- 125821
1943, SN range 125821+- 126178
1944, SN range 126178+- 126417

In April of 1940, the commercial nitro proof of Eagle over N, and the Oberndorf proof house of the Stag Horn were introduced. Mine, at 123,686, would have been one of the first to have these marks on the receiver.
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Junk Yard Dog wrote::vcool: :vcool: :vcool: :vcool: In the middle of all out war and they were still building this? With most everyone in uniform, or in a factory, or dead, question would be who had time to aquire or use these in 1939-45 period?
My father, born in 1928 and thus just a mid-teenager at the middle/end of war, often told me that he had to join the so-called "Reichsarbeitsdienst" ("RAD" - "Working Organisation of the Reich") when he had finished school, but was still too young for military service. This was a sort of paramilitary organisation, mainly tasked with any kind of public work (mainly manual labour on construction sites, tidying up areas damaged by bombs etc. during the war - in pre-war years this organisation was also heavily involved in Autobahn construction). During the winter of 1944/45 my father's RAD unit was heavily committed to free mountain roads in Bavaria and Austria from snow blocking them (freshly fallen or coming as an avalanche) - their only equipment consisted of simple shovels. Once they were locked in a small mountain valley by an avalanche which had blocked the only entrance and had literally to dig themselves out again - before food supplies in that valley ran out.
But besides this working obligations there was also a lot of paramilitary and later also military training. At first with .22lr rifles, later with fully-fledged K98ks. Some even got a training on anti-aircraft guns and were sent to defend airfields against low-flying attackers. Training with small-bore rifles also took place with the Hitler Youth on a large scale. My father enjoyed his first training lesson with such a rifle there at the age of 12.
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Thanks for sharing the story. What a different world we live in now.
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Fledge wrote:Thanks for sharing the story. What a different world we live in now.
No, the problem is we don't live in a different world now, the crap has just moved to another part of it. How many times do we see some kid in Afghanistan, or Pakistan holding an RPG or AK? How many kid soldiers are rampaging across Africa?
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Junk Yard Dog wrote:
Fledge wrote:Thanks for sharing the story. What a different world we live in now.
No, the problem is we don't live in a different world now, the crap has just moved to another part of it. How many times do we see some kid in Afghanistan, or Pakistan holding an RPG or AK? How many kid soldiers are rampaging across Africa?
I meant that kids stop playing video games, and put down the cell phones long enough to get some exercise shoveling snow :chuckles: I see where you are coming from JYD.
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7x57 wrote:
My father, born in 1928 and thus just a mid-teenager at the middle/end of war, often told me that he had to join the so-called "Reichsarbeitsdienst" ("RAD" - "Working Organisation of the Reich") when he had finished school, but was still too young for military service. This was a sort of paramilitary organisation, mainly tasked with any kind of public work (mainly manual labour on construction sites, tidying up areas damaged by bombs etc. during the war - in pre-war years this organisation was also heavily involved in Autobahn construction). During the winter of 1944/45 my father's RAD unit was heavily committed to free mountain roads in Bavaria and Austria from snow blocking them (freshly fallen or coming as an avalanche) - their only equipment consisted of simple shovels. Once they were locked in a small mountain valley by an avalanche which had blocked the only entrance and had literally to dig themselves out again - before food supplies in that valley ran out.
But besides this working obligations there was also a lot of paramilitary and later also military training. At first with .22lr rifles, later with fully-fledged K98ks. Some even got a training on anti-aircraft guns and were sent to defend airfields against low-flying attackers. Training with small-bore rifles also took place with the Hitler Youth on a large scale. My father enjoyed his first training lesson with such a rifle there at the age of 12.


Fantastic and very personal account of a unique time and place in history. Thank you.
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