But the Argentine M1909 is one of them.
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Available in Germany or are you buying from other European country's also? The Argentine government sold off the bulk of these rifles during the late 1950's and into the early 60's. I wouldn't have thought Germany was a big importer of surplus like this at that time. Argentina had a nice program of refurbishment going on aimed at squeezing as much money as they could from their surplus rifles. They made them look pretty before they offered them for sale in order to command top dollar. They did it with everything going back to the Remington 1879 Rolling block, but these unissued, or lightly issued 1909's slipped past that. They looked good enough as is , I had a hell of a time finding a nice original 1879 that had escaped refurb.7x57 wrote:Congratulations - a very nice Mauser. A 1909 Argentine Mauser also stands far on top of my wish list, only surpassed by a Swiss K31. Normally it isn't too difficult to find a real nice, all-matching one over here, but I'm looking for one with matching bayonet, too. And that's a different story...
7x57 wrote:Congratulations - a very nice Mauser. A 1909 Argentine Mauser also stands far on top of my wish list, only surpassed by a Swiss K31. Normally it isn't too difficult to find a real nice, all-matching one over here, but I'm looking for one with matching bayonet, too. And that's a different story...
So far I did only buy from German sources. It IS possible to buy from other EU countries plus Switzerland, but as soon as you can't pick up the rifle by yourself transport becomes rather expensive. And of course a lot of paper work...Junk Yard Dog wrote:Available in Germany or are you buying from other European country's also?
That red brown crap the commies used, and the clear stuff the Argentines used is grease, cheap grease. Cosmoline is our stuff, the product of a first world capitalist economy, it is heated to liquefy it, applied to metal with a brush like paint, allowed to dry to a wax like dark coating. Grease wipes off, usually on everything you don't want it on, it's also absorbed by wood and will leach out every time the wood gets hot. Cosmoline will not be absorbed by anything once it's dry, it's also considerably more expensive that grease, that's why we could use it and they couldn't afford to. 7.65 Argentine is hard to find, Surplus exists in small amounts, but then so does commercial loads for almost the same money.390ish wrote:I was gifted an 09 like that. Had cosmoline in the barrel. The clear kind, as opposed to the red/brown commie cosmoline I was used to dealing with. It is the only rifle I have that I have not shot.
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And the moral of the story is STAY ON JYD's GOOD SIDE!Junk Yard Dog wrote:Many consider the Argentine 1909 as the high point of Mauser fit and finish, they are probably right. When I look at mine I am just amazed that something this nicely made was intended for ordinary soldiers. I fought a small war for this rifle, it hung for years on the wall of a gunshop like Chuck works in. One were all the real cool stuff is hanging up and not for sale. One day the owner decided to sell out and retire, there would be a one day super sale of all the remaining stock, including all the stuff on the walls. I found out a local Bubba was planning on buying that 1909 GEW and reworking it into a " good" sporter, he never could keep his mouth shut. I got up before dawn, I was in that parking lot waiting when the shop owner arrived just as the sun was coming up. We had coffee, spent some time chatting about days gone by, then I bought that Mauser and a number of other nice things. I am packing it all into the car when Bubba pulls in, first thing he sees is me with that rifle. He was a blustery sort who thought if you talk loud enough you get what you want. First he offered money, then accused me of going " behind his back " to steal the rifle from him. I said yes, that's just what I did, and his eyes about popped out of his skull. Then I opened my coat and made sure he saw what I had on my belt, we had a few quiet words that ended the conversation and I spent the next five years stealing out from under that scumbag any rifle I heard he was looking at, or for. I am sure a few slipped past me, but for the most part he had to travel away from home to find what he wanted. It all ended on the side of I-95 someplace in Georgia when local, state, and Federal law enforcement swooped down on him and his trunk full of guns and blow he was running north. Smuggling hand guns into New York was a big no-no back then also, unregistered full auto weapons an even bigger no-no as was the several keys of blow, major distribution weight. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy, I hope he enjoys the special relationships with his fellow inmates that prison life has to offer, I hope he enjoys it several times a day. Every time I look at that Mauser I think of that Bubba, I like to say he started going bad the moment he took a saw to his first milsurp, and look were he ended up.
No kidding!websterz wrote:And the moral of the story is STAY ON JYD's GOOD SIDE!Junk Yard Dog wrote:Many consider the Argentine 1909 as the high point of Mauser fit and finish, they are probably right. When I look at mine I am just amazed that something this nicely made was intended for ordinary soldiers. I fought a small war for this rifle, it hung for years on the wall of a gunshop like Chuck works in. One were all the real cool stuff is hanging up and not for sale. One day the owner decided to sell out and retire, there would be a one day super sale of all the remaining stock, including all the stuff on the walls. I found out a local Bubba was planning on buying that 1909 GEW and reworking it into a " good" sporter, he never could keep his mouth shut. I got up before dawn, I was in that parking lot waiting when the shop owner arrived just as the sun was coming up. We had coffee, spent some time chatting about days gone by, then I bought that Mauser and a number of other nice things. I am packing it all into the car when Bubba pulls in, first thing he sees is me with that rifle. He was a blustery sort who thought if you talk loud enough you get what you want. First he offered money, then accused me of going " behind his back " to steal the rifle from him. I said yes, that's just what I did, and his eyes about popped out of his skull. Then I opened my coat and made sure he saw what I had on my belt, we had a few quiet words that ended the conversation and I spent the next five years stealing out from under that scumbag any rifle I heard he was looking at, or for. I am sure a few slipped past me, but for the most part he had to travel away from home to find what he wanted. It all ended on the side of I-95 someplace in Georgia when local, state, and Federal law enforcement swooped down on him and his trunk full of guns and blow he was running north. Smuggling hand guns into New York was a big no-no back then also, unregistered full auto weapons an even bigger no-no as was the several keys of blow, major distribution weight. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy, I hope he enjoys the special relationships with his fellow inmates that prison life has to offer, I hope he enjoys it several times a day. Every time I look at that Mauser I think of that Bubba, I like to say he started going bad the moment he took a saw to his first milsurp, and look were he ended up.
kjohn wrote:OP: Very nice rifle. I have both a rifle and carbine in 1909. The carbine is a bit scruffy, but the rifle is fairly nice.
I also have both manufacturer's examples of 1908 Brazil rifles, and a 1935. The Brazil rifles are gorgeous. There is a site somewhere that is chock full of threads about how proud Bubbas are of the job they made of ruining these rifles.I had to stay in the bathroom for two days after reading a couple of the blurbs.
Can't post any pics, as I am not at home.