1903 Sestroryetsk Imperial - Russian> German> Finland>USA

[brm1751]

Here is my second favorite M91. I had to get my grandson to help load pictures. Again I am no expert and I am open for corrections. This one again is of Russian manufacture. It also was early WW1 capture by the Germans. As in many cases it was used in training. I had thought the VII.58 stamp referred to the 7th Landesshutzen Regiment, rack #58. These were front line Austrian mountain troops which is unusual for captured Mosin Nagants. But that now is in question. A post on this site by mosinowner last September pictured a M91 with the same VII.58 marking. If anyone has documentation for these markings or even a good guess please chime in. I am open to all suggestions. After the war it was sold off to Finland. This brings up a second question about the cartouche and number stamp on the butt stock. There is the typical German property stamp over the Russian cartouche. But just above is a stamp "S ?13??". I do not know if this is German, Austrian or perhaps Finn Civil Guard. Again I am open to all comments. Eventually the rifle made it to my collection here in the USA. Pictures and marking explanations??? below.

Russia
Russian Imperial Eagle
Cartouche - Circle within circle

German
2.K.125 receiver stamp - 2nd Kriegsschule/ weapon #125 (X'd out) (WW1) - War school.
VII.58 receiver stamp - 7th Landesshutzen Battalion??? - Austrian Mountain troops
Stock cartouche - German Deutsches Reich over Russian cartouche

Finland
Boxed SA - Finnish property mark
"S ?13??" Civil Guard stamp on butt stock???
No "D" stamp
Finnish 2 piece stock

USA
Imported 1990's


Thanks for looking. Hope you can help me put to rest a couple mysteries.


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[martin08]

Wish I could help with the markings. Nice rifle.

Here's another receiver with similar markings.

http://www.surplusrifleforum.com/viewto ... &view=next

[Junk Yard Dog]

Nice one

[zeebill]

Rifles like that are what keeps me looking! Congrats! Bill

[jimpierce7]

nice!!

[brm1751]

Wish I could help with the markings. Nice rifle.

Here's another receiver with similar markings.

http://www.surplusrifleforum.com/viewto ... &view=next

This one makes three I've seen now. All with the identical VII.58 stamp. Roman numerals were used by the Austro-Hungarians for the Landesshutzen regimental numbers but the 58 has me stumped. Maybe one day lightening will strike. Thanks for the info. Sorry the pics didn't turn out larger.

[fintowin]

That is a rifle with a lot of history. Very cool.