Russian Import Ban
Russian Import Ban
What have you all heard about a "Russian Import Ban"
http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center ... 40716.aspx
http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center ... 40716.aspx
1. M39 Finn, 7.62x54mm 1944 Sako
2. M38, 7.62x54mm 1943 Izhevsk
3. M44, 7.62x54 mm 1945 Izhevsk
4. SKS, Russian, 7.62x39mm 1951 Tula
5. SKS Chinese #26, 7.62x39mm
6. SKS Chinese #316, 7.62x39mm
7. M48, Yugoslav, Mauser 8x57mm
8. Air Rifle .22, Beeman RS2
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Paul
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2. M38, 7.62x54mm 1943 Izhevsk
3. M44, 7.62x54 mm 1945 Izhevsk
4. SKS, Russian, 7.62x39mm 1951 Tula
5. SKS Chinese #26, 7.62x39mm
6. SKS Chinese #316, 7.62x39mm
7. M48, Yugoslav, Mauser 8x57mm
8. Air Rifle .22, Beeman RS2
Best Regards
Paul
USN Retired
Vietnam Veteran
- bunkysdad
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Re: Russian Import Ban
There is already a thread started on this topic. I think in the SKS section?
Re: Russian Import Ban
Copy Thatbunkysdad wrote:There is already a thread started on this topic. I think in the SKS section?
Thanks
1. M39 Finn, 7.62x54mm 1944 Sako
2. M38, 7.62x54mm 1943 Izhevsk
3. M44, 7.62x54 mm 1945 Izhevsk
4. SKS, Russian, 7.62x39mm 1951 Tula
5. SKS Chinese #26, 7.62x39mm
6. SKS Chinese #316, 7.62x39mm
7. M48, Yugoslav, Mauser 8x57mm
8. Air Rifle .22, Beeman RS2
Best Regards
Paul
USN Retired
Vietnam Veteran
2. M38, 7.62x54mm 1943 Izhevsk
3. M44, 7.62x54 mm 1945 Izhevsk
4. SKS, Russian, 7.62x39mm 1951 Tula
5. SKS Chinese #26, 7.62x39mm
6. SKS Chinese #316, 7.62x39mm
7. M48, Yugoslav, Mauser 8x57mm
8. Air Rifle .22, Beeman RS2
Best Regards
Paul
USN Retired
Vietnam Veteran
Re: Russian Import Ban
I don't see it. Can someone give a link?
I received an email from RTI about the ban, and they are insinuating that certain Mosins will be unavailable for sale because of this import ban. 91/30 Sniper.
There seems to be a lot of confusion about Molot.. and, also, if future imports of Mosins are banned because they come from the areas in Ukraine that are covered in the sanctions. Anyone?
I received an email from RTI about the ban, and they are insinuating that certain Mosins will be unavailable for sale because of this import ban. 91/30 Sniper.
There seems to be a lot of confusion about Molot.. and, also, if future imports of Mosins are banned because they come from the areas in Ukraine that are covered in the sanctions. Anyone?
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Re: Russian Import Ban
I think that there has been a colossal clusterfuck over there today of horrendous proportions that will only make everything far worse, hundreds dead, civilian commercial airliner that was not Ukrainian or Russian in a million pieces for all the world to see. This is an act of degenerates, no matter who they are, and now they have killed outsiders who had no possible involvement in their squabble. There will be repercussions from this and cutting off firearms imports will be the least of them.
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
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Re: Russian Import Ban
NATO is fueling up the jets and strapping bombs.....Junk Yard Dog wrote:I think that there has been a colossal clusterfuck over there today of horrendous proportions that will only make everything far worse, hundreds dead, civilian commercial airliner that was not Ukrainian or Russian in a million pieces for all the world to see. This is an act of degenerates, no matter who they are, and now they have killed outsiders who had no possible involvement in their squabble. There will be repercussions from this and cutting off firearms imports will be the least of them.
Re: Russian Import Ban
pgaplayerless wrote:NATO is fueling up the jets and strapping bombs.....Junk Yard Dog wrote:I think that there has been a colossal clusterfuck over there today of horrendous proportions that will only make everything far worse, hundreds dead, civilian commercial airliner that was not Ukrainian or Russian in a million pieces for all the world to see. This is an act of degenerates, no matter who they are, and now they have killed outsiders who had no possible involvement in their squabble. There will be repercussions from this and cutting off firearms imports will be the least of them.
Yea and we are just a few days away from the 100th Anniversary of the start of WWI on 28 July, Omen
1. M39 Finn, 7.62x54mm 1944 Sako
2. M38, 7.62x54mm 1943 Izhevsk
3. M44, 7.62x54 mm 1945 Izhevsk
4. SKS, Russian, 7.62x39mm 1951 Tula
5. SKS Chinese #26, 7.62x39mm
6. SKS Chinese #316, 7.62x39mm
7. M48, Yugoslav, Mauser 8x57mm
8. Air Rifle .22, Beeman RS2
Best Regards
Paul
USN Retired
Vietnam Veteran
2. M38, 7.62x54mm 1943 Izhevsk
3. M44, 7.62x54 mm 1945 Izhevsk
4. SKS, Russian, 7.62x39mm 1951 Tula
5. SKS Chinese #26, 7.62x39mm
6. SKS Chinese #316, 7.62x39mm
7. M48, Yugoslav, Mauser 8x57mm
8. Air Rifle .22, Beeman RS2
Best Regards
Paul
USN Retired
Vietnam Veteran
Re: Russian Import Ban
Concur.Junk Yard Dog wrote:I think that there has been a colossal clusterfuck over there today of horrendous proportions that will only make everything far worse, hundreds dead, civilian commercial airliner that was not Ukrainian or Russian in a million pieces for all the world to see. This is an act of degenerates, no matter who they are, and now they have killed outsiders who had no possible involvement in their squabble. There will be repercussions from this and cutting off firearms imports will be the least of them.
But the response of the West will be economic, not military-- unless you count the usual, ineffectual, saber-rattling.
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Re: Russian Import Ban
The Marxist Muslim Mole, doesn't have the "Testicular Fortitude" to respond to anything, he's a Community Organizer at best, and how good was he at that?
Chicago politics at its best. Just ask the Rev. Jesse Jackson who is a master of corporate shake downs.
Chicago politics at its best. Just ask the Rev. Jesse Jackson who is a master of corporate shake downs.
Re: Russian Import Ban
Joeinthehills wrote:The Marxist Muslim Mole, doesn't have the "Testicular Fortitude" to respond to anything, he's a Community Organizer at best, and how good was he at that?
Chicago politics at its best. Just ask the Rev. Jesse Jackson who is a master of corporate shake downs.
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1. M39 Finn, 7.62x54mm 1944 Sako
2. M38, 7.62x54mm 1943 Izhevsk
3. M44, 7.62x54 mm 1945 Izhevsk
4. SKS, Russian, 7.62x39mm 1951 Tula
5. SKS Chinese #26, 7.62x39mm
6. SKS Chinese #316, 7.62x39mm
7. M48, Yugoslav, Mauser 8x57mm
8. Air Rifle .22, Beeman RS2
Best Regards
Paul
USN Retired
Vietnam Veteran
2. M38, 7.62x54mm 1943 Izhevsk
3. M44, 7.62x54 mm 1945 Izhevsk
4. SKS, Russian, 7.62x39mm 1951 Tula
5. SKS Chinese #26, 7.62x39mm
6. SKS Chinese #316, 7.62x39mm
7. M48, Yugoslav, Mauser 8x57mm
8. Air Rifle .22, Beeman RS2
Best Regards
Paul
USN Retired
Vietnam Veteran
Re: Russian Import Ban
Someone will be spending a lot of time at the golf course I bet! Now my serious face...
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Re: Russian Import Ban
We can only hope he is this inept. I suspect he is capable of so much more.Joeinthehills wrote:The Marxist Muslim Mole, doesn't have the "Testicular Fortitude" to respond to anything, he's a Community Organizer at best, and how good was he at that?
Chicago politics at its best. Just ask the Rev. Jesse Jackson who is a master of corporate shake downs.
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Re: Russian Import Ban
Watch the politics. This is a firearms board.
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Re: Russian Import Ban
Well, here it is, the day after the atrocity (no other accurate term for it save "crime" or "massacre" or something similar), and in the words of George MacDonald Fraser, what we have (predictably) is the "clutching of brows, shaking of fists, and all of the other usual preliminaries to inaction."
I'm not going to slang any specific politician. The veriest hell with the lot of 'em say I. And not to be cold, but there are political implications that affect the price and availability of milsurp imports whenever something like this happens.
I don't buy auto or semi-auto rifles, so the ban will have no direct effect on me, but I recognize back-door gun control when I see it. "Never waste a crisis."
What this will do to prices? Who knows. The price of M91/30 refurbs is already all over the map. I never thought that I would see the day when I could buy the same rifle on GB more cheaply including shipping as compared to Cabela's $200 mark-up. Maybe I'll motor over there this weekend to see if they've pushed it even higher.
And availability? Again, who knows? The local Gander Mountain had already stopped carrying M91/30s before this, but then their interest in that commodity always struck me as half-hearted at best. I would think that anyone with a Russian weapon of any sort would think twice about selling it now, or (as JYD said) they'll think that they can sell a `42-`43 Izhevsk priced at a Fool's Pinnacle.
I'm not going to slang any specific politician. The veriest hell with the lot of 'em say I. And not to be cold, but there are political implications that affect the price and availability of milsurp imports whenever something like this happens.
I don't buy auto or semi-auto rifles, so the ban will have no direct effect on me, but I recognize back-door gun control when I see it. "Never waste a crisis."
What this will do to prices? Who knows. The price of M91/30 refurbs is already all over the map. I never thought that I would see the day when I could buy the same rifle on GB more cheaply including shipping as compared to Cabela's $200 mark-up. Maybe I'll motor over there this weekend to see if they've pushed it even higher.
And availability? Again, who knows? The local Gander Mountain had already stopped carrying M91/30s before this, but then their interest in that commodity always struck me as half-hearted at best. I would think that anyone with a Russian weapon of any sort would think twice about selling it now, or (as JYD said) they'll think that they can sell a `42-`43 Izhevsk priced at a Fool's Pinnacle.
Re: Russian Import Ban
I suppose we shall see... Too much conflicting information out there.
I am not personally worried about the flow of Mosins from Russia, but I had hoped the low-cost super-cool Mosins would be available in 20 years for a new generation of enthusiasts.
I am not personally worried about the flow of Mosins from Russia, but I had hoped the low-cost super-cool Mosins would be available in 20 years for a new generation of enthusiasts.
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Re: Russian Import Ban
It's fine to talk about the politics of a "gun ban" such as this. It is not OK to slander anyone over politics. Either side.
Stick to the politics of gun control.
Dolk
Stick to the politics of gun control.
Dolk
Re: Russian Import Ban
Yup. I am only concerned, on this board, about the availability of 7.62x54R ammunition for all of us and availability of these super cool Mosins for future generations.
I have Mosins. If I can't get anymore, I will be fine.
For the people of these affected areas, I pray for peace and prosperity.
I have Mosins. If I can't get anymore, I will be fine.
For the people of these affected areas, I pray for peace and prosperity.
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Re: Russian Import Ban
paul6892 wrote:Joeinthehills wrote:The Marxist Muslim Mole, doesn't have the "Testicular Fortitude" to respond to anything, he's a Community Organizer at best, and how good was he at that?
Chicago politics at its best. Just ask the Rev. Jesse Jackson who is a master of corporate shake downs.
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He's real good at drawing red lines though. Oh wait that's not what he meant. Sorry now back to our scheduled programming.
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Re: Russian Import Ban
I Guess that plan on getting a .223 caliber Siaga just went down the crapper...
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Re: Russian Import Ban
There was a bunch of places that put these up for sale over the last few days and they sold out fast. One place had 50 of them and sold them in hours. It's also spilling over into other Russian production "products". One vendor put a statement up saying they're looking for replacement product due to the high demand for Russian items and asked to bear with them.Rongo wrote:I Guess that plan on getting a .223 caliber Siaga just went down the crapper...