New to this site and looking for some info

[berkmberk1]

Hi all......I new to this site, and to Mosin Nagants.......always wondered what anyone saw in Russian mass production..........at least until I read up on M39s! Now THATS my idea of product improvement. The lines are superb, the design alterations ingenious........and talk about recycling!!!! Pat Burns has been my source so far. I'm starting off a Finn collection by acquiring one for each year (40's). Then I want to look back and pick up a 27, and a 28 for the pre-war/Winter War era.

After getting my '42 Sako, I was perusing her sale list again and couldn't resist the urge.......ordered two more.......a "like new" VKT '44, and a doggish looking, 25% blue, '41 VKT.......it looks WELL USED (as I'm sure it was), but it has interesting markings........which leads to my question. Does anyone know of a GOOD, comprehensive listing of Hungarian Arsenal markings? I've run across most of the online references concerning the odd marks on Finn 39s, but I'd like to get some more in-depth info. The '41 VKT has an unblemished Imperial Eagle on the receiver ring. Overstamped is a capitol R and below and right and smaller in size are the letters "II" and a "k". I saw a strikingly similar mark represented on 7.62x54.net indicating what I suppose was the Budapest Arsenal reworking of an Imperial 91/30. Considering the date of the Finn remodeling, I would guess this is one of (or parts of) the Mosins they were scavenging for before, during, and after the Soviet invasion. What makes it so intriguing (and why I bought it) is the fact that the mark even exists! My first 39, the '42 Sako has the typical "dimple" where an Imperial crest was ground out. There is still a tiny foot, orb, and a scant part of a wing that didn't get obliterated on it. The one I have coming was never touched since the Hungarian over-stamp.

Anyone out there with any similar "not typical" receiver ring marks?

I'll take pictures when they arrive

Mike

[BuckeyeSgt]

Welcome to the forum. I think what you are seeing letter wise is the ПК marking.
Line 9 row 3
http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinMarks01.htm

[berkmberk1]

Nope......not it. Look at "Other Countries" http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinMarks03.htm Line 13 column 3. I also found pics in my history files - I hope I added them correctly!

[BuckeyeSgt]

The R looks just like the arsenal rework mark, right along with the crest and ПК proof commission mark.

[kamakazi339]

welcome to the forum!

[Judi and her Mosins]

Welcome to the RMNF. Those are some nice rifles. I just picked-up my first Finn awhile back. Been looking at more of them . Hope to see more pictures and post from you. Judi and her Mosin's

[Junk Yard Dog]

Nice VKT

[zeebill]

R more than likely some kind of rework inspection mark and what is below is a Russian proof mark. If you cut and paste them next to each other you will see a definite difference. Welcome aboard and Congrats on your new to you M39. Bill