My very special Finn (M91)

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My very special Finn (M91)

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My ex Dragoon Capture.
Receiver is a French Chatellerault.
Belgian "B" barrel with "VKT" "D" and Liege Proof marks...
..and I believe the trigger is American.
Also has the WW1 German capture marks on the receiver.

Picked this up about a year ago for $120.00 including reloading dies for 7.62x54R and some loaded brass cartridges.
A real DEAL!!!


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Re: My very special Finn (ex Dragoon Capture)

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:pointup: That my friend is an Uber deal! A beautiful example to boot! Congrats on that one and thanks for the great close up pics. Welcome to the club and hope to see more of your photography skills. :thumbsup:
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Re: My very special Finn (ex Dragoon Capture)

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Wow what a deal !!! Did you hold a gun on the guy?? Truly a crown jewel to any collection.
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I'm a pro photographer, but these I took with my little canon point & shoot (Canon S90)...it has a fantastic closeup macro capability...

:-)
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Re: My very special Finn (ex Dragoon Capture)

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Wow, fantastic rifle at a great price. It would have been a Chatellerault M91, not a dragoon before it was rebarreled by the Finns. So it is still in the same M91 configuration. Looks like the receiver may have German marks on it too.
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Re: My very special Finn (ex Dragoon Capture)

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I forgot to mention the mirror shiny barrel with nice grooves......
The rifle is about 4 inches longer than the 91/30, so I think you are correct that this is NOT an ex Dragoon, but a M91.
..and yes those are German capture marks (I believe to be from WW1).
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Being a pro photographer I bet you can get great bore pics " hent"
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Re: My very special Finn (ex Dragoon Capture)

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:big shock: Wow, you stole that right out from under them! I thought I got a good deal on my "B" barrel last week but this one absolutely takes the cake!!! I think you've got a part from every single arsenal known to have made Mosins! That is one very beautiful rifle, congratulations!
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The capture marks "VII 58" on my Mosin match the group # in this photo....

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Very nice B barrel M91. Has some good history on the receiver and liege marked barrel. Super good deal for 120. These go for over 500 nowa days.
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What an excellent find for an even better price!
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Re: My very special Finn (M91)

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Well, I now think this IS an ex dragoon.....anyone with info please chime in here...

My rear site looks like the ex dragoon style as seen in this photo I found in the forum..

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3373&p=48850&hilit= ... oon#p48850

I'll have to measure length of rifle when I get home....I think it was over 50 inches....I do know it is roughly 3-4 inches longer than any of my other 91/30's..
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This is a Finnish M91 B barrel. Barrel was made in Belgium for finland. Some have Liege proofs like yours. Not all. It is not a Dragoon or ex dragoon. The receiver was captured on a m91 or dragoon from Russia by Germany and then later sold to finland and then the receiver was reused on this M91 by finland. :D
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Re: My very special Finn (M91)

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From top to bottom:

Finnish M91 (Same rifle as photos above in this post)
Tula 1930 Hex 91/30
Izhevsk 1942 Round 91/30
Hungarian 1952 M44

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Re: My very special Finn (M91)

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The receiver has the early grease hole too. Nice. Your rifle was a straight-up M91 infantry rifle in its previous incarnation. Chatellerault never made a dragoon model. Keep checking ebay etc for a handguard. They have become very pricey lately though.
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Re: My very special Finn (M91)

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Thanks for the info!
And yes, the upper hand guard was the only thing missing.
I'm keeping a lookout for one.
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I missed the grease hole shot. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Re: My very special Finn (M91)

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I'm guessing that with the grease hole, this French receiver must have been made between 1892-1893.
Thoughts?
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Re: My very special Finn (M91)

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mosinowner wrote:I'm guessing that with the grease hole, this French receiver must have been made between 1892-1893.
Thoughts?
Maybe early '94 at the latest. :thumbsup:
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