RGUNS has Sniper Rifles

paul6892 · Post by **paul6892** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:30 pm

RGUNS Snipers $800.00 is that about par and are they Real ?

http://www.rguns.net/rifles/rifles-bolt.shtml

Post by **Longcolt44** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:40 pm

The simple answer is, Yes. To date the snipers that Rguns has are the only snipers that have been accepted by collectors as the real deal. Some others may have all Russian parts but the Rguns have had the paper trail verified.

WeldonHunter · Post by **WeldonHunter** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:40 am

Look here viewforum.php?f=52

More specifically. viewtopic.php?f=52&t=3465

Post by **Junk Yard Dog** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 5:52 am

Most importantly, they have no affiliation with Mitchells Mausers at all.

Post by **Rongo** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 7:25 am

One of these days I might buy one of those PU Sniper rifles & this will be where I get one.

BenedictGomez · Post by **BenedictGomez** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 7:45 am

Junk Yard Dog wrote:Most importantly, they have no affiliation with Mitchells Mausers at all.

What's Molot's affiliation with Mitchell Mausers? Did they sell MM Russian captured Mauser parts for assembly or something?

Post by **Darryl** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 4:36 pm

BenedictGomez wrote:
Junk Yard Dog wrote:Most importantly, they have no affiliation with Mitchells Mausers at all.
What's Molot's affiliation with Mitchell Mausers? Did they sell MM Russian captured Mauser parts for assembly or something?

No......Mitchell's is now selling Molot sniper rifles, and each one comes with a "Mitchell's Certificate of Provenance".

That makes them "real"

BenedictGomez · Post by **BenedictGomez** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 5:28 pm

dolk wrote:No......Mitchell's is now selling Molot sniper rifles, and each one comes with a "Mitchell's Certificate of Provenance". That makes them "real"

Probably the same batch Molot is selling to Aim and Classic is my guess. As long as MM doesnt tamper with them after they get em' from Molot, it's probably not a problem, but yeah, given their reputation I'd steer clear and go with a different vendor. Though bait + switch nonsense is a lot tougher with snipers (there's a lot they have to get right to pull it off).

Post by **Darryl** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:41 pm

BenedictGomez wrote:
dolk wrote:No......Mitchell's is now selling Molot sniper rifles, and each one comes with a "Mitchell's Certificate of Provenance". That makes them "real"
Probably the same batch Molot is selling to Aim and Classic is my guess. As long as MM doesnt tamper with them after they get em' from Molot, it's probably not a problem, but yeah, given their reputation I'd steer clear and go with a different vendor. Though bait + switch nonsense is a lot tougher with snipers (there's a lot they have to get right to pull it off).

No,....Molot is not an exporter or an importer. The importer is who is selling them to Aim, Classic, and Mitchell's.

Molot is a private company that does a lot of the same work as Mitchell's does here on Mauser.

BenedictGomez · Post by **BenedictGomez** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 7:29 pm

dolk wrote:No,....Molot is not an exporter or an importer. The importer is who is selling them to Aim, Classic, and Mitchell's.

Molot is a private company that does a lot of the same work as Mitchell's does here on Mauser.

What I meant is I'm fine with the way the rifles are coming over, but what I'd be worried about is if a disingenuous company alters them once they're delivered. For example, if you had a crooked company it could take off a pristine (valuable) WWII era scope and replace it with a crappy PU scope with a subpar reticle or a cloudy view or just in very worn shape or something. As long as they didnt guarantee the scopes match the rifle, that sort of thing could happen, leaving you with a mismatch and a crappy scope, and leaving then with a scope they could easily sell for $325. That might not be a great example, but my point is there's all sorts of monkey-business that could happen to the rifle once it reaches the American shore if the importer is crooked.

paul6892 · Post by **paul6892** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:36 pm

WeldonHunter wrote:Look here viewforum.php?f=52

More specifically. viewtopic.php?f=52&t=3465

Excellent information !

Thank you

WeldonHunter · Post by **WeldonHunter** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 11:08 pm

paul6892 wrote:
WeldonHunter wrote:Look here viewforum.php?f=52

More specifically. viewtopic.php?f=52&t=3465
Excellent information !

Thank you

Then there's this. http://gun-deals.com/index.php?dealtype ... 4&subcat=5

Jesse · Post by **Jesse** » Sun Sep 08, 2013 2:09 am

Speaking of Molots, today I saw one on sale here in Australia, going for nearly US$2500!! Known repo PUs on a regular mosin fetch around US$1300-1600.

UV-MAN · Post by **UV-MAN** » Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:59 am

Hi,
Has anyone purchased one from RGUNS?
How are they,
Numbers matching?
Condition?
Do they hand pick?
Would you recommend one from them?
Now I have to get permission from my wife .

Thanks,
Fred

WeldonHunter · Post by **WeldonHunter** » Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:23 am

UV-MAN wrote:Hi,
Has anyone purchased one from RGUNS?
How are they,
Numbers matching?
Condition?
Do they hand pick?
Would you recommend one from them?
Now I have to get permission from my wife .
Thanks,
Fred

Welcome to the board. The short answer is, yes the RGuns are real by collector standards in that there's a paper trail showing where they came from. There's quite a few on this board that have been purchased. No they don't offer hand pick anymore. They are highly recomended especially if you want one that's considered authentic without question in a time when the market is being flooded by rifles that have questionable origins. Condition on them varies but is overall good in most cases. They're matching rifles for the most part. They are after all rifles that have been through the refurb program. They've retained a far amount of their original parts as they tried to keep them together on PUs but as with refurbs some parts are replacements and have been force matched. This is perfectly acceptable. There's a few posts here you may want to look through. viewforum.php?f=52 specifically this one viewtopic.php?f=52&t=3465

UV-MAN · Post by **UV-MAN** » Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:13 pm

Perfect!
Thank you very much!

Fred

UV-MAN · Post by **UV-MAN** » Fri Sep 20, 2013 5:43 am

Hi all,
Yesterday I got my sniper from RGUNS.
Now keep in mind I have never used or owned a 91/30.
The gun is in nice condition but one thing took me by surprise.
When retracting the bolt to it's fully open position the bolt is "sloppy as hell" in the receiver. It feels like it will almost fall out
on it's own (it does not).
Is this normal

thanks,
Fred

Post by **Junk Yard Dog** » Fri Sep 20, 2013 6:03 am

Post by **bunkysdad** » Fri Sep 20, 2013 6:21 am

Fred, congrats on your rifle. Yes that is normal. Study the design and notice that the bolt is nearly ready for removal at that point. Then it locks up tight again when closed. The loose assembly tolerances on Mosins is why they were able to remain usable when temps dropped down to zero. Welcome to the forum.

UV-MAN · Post by **UV-MAN** » Fri Sep 20, 2013 6:48 am

Thanks,
I think this rifle would fire on the planet Pluto

yes, everything does tighten up when the bolt is locked.
What would you use to clean off the cosmoline?
I plan on taking everything apart for cleaning. Mineral Spirits? Then oiling?
Also ammo from RGUNS. Ok?
thanks,
Fred

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