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redeuce · Post by **redeuce** » Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:46 am

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =332811948

Shoot..............I just saw a small Molot stamp on the tang. JYD or Dolk, can you move this to the Molot section?

Post by **Junk Yard Dog** » Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:49 am

MarksmanTim · Post by **MarksmanTim** » Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:52 am

WOW. A complete liar: "I've had it in my collection for many years" Why does it have a Molot stamp on it then?

Unfortunately, many people won't recognize the marking in the one picture. I also can't believe people bid this up over $400 and it didn't even meet the reserve!

desdem12 · Post by **desdem12** » Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:46 am

IT sure looks refinished to the blind me too.

BubbaDX · Post by **BubbaDX** » Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:12 am

You guys have good eyes. It took me 3 or 4 passes over his pictures to find that molot stamp.

Burgman50 · Post by **Burgman50** » Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:35 am

Correct me if I'm wrong, but in order for it to be all matching and all original, doesn't it have to have the prefix that precedes the serial # on the receiver as well as the bolt, trigger assembly, and the butt plate? If no letters, then it's calle a force matched??

desdem12 · Post by **desdem12** » Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:49 am

correct

FINNADDICT · Post by **FINNADDICT** » Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:56 am

I pass.

WeldonHunter · Post by **WeldonHunter** » Sat Mar 16, 2013 12:16 pm

Yup another scammer lieing through his teeth. Refinshed stock on a recently imported M44. Not rare and now twice ruined as a collectable rifle. Putz!

Post by **millman** » Sat Mar 16, 2013 12:29 pm

WeldonHunter wrote:Yup another scammer lieing through his teeth. Refinshed stock on a recently imported M44. Not rare and now twice ruined as a collectable rifle. Putz!

+1

redeuce · Post by **redeuce** » Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:23 pm

I find it disturbing that a wave of M44's and M38's are appearing on GB, that just sold for $199-$229, and being marketed and sold for $300 and up...........................without any referral to the "stamp".........................................some dummies leave them right in the shipping box.....................

rlchemist · Post by **rlchemist** » Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:34 pm

The seller said that there were "no strikeouts" which might be factually correct, but it sure looks as if the original number on the floorplate has been ground or polished off.

WeldonHunter · Post by **WeldonHunter** » Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:52 pm

rlchemist wrote:The seller said that there were "no strikeouts" which might be factually correct, but it sure looks as if the original number on the floorplate has been ground or polished off.

Every numbered part on that rifle was ground off and renumbered except the barrel number. It's a refurb. All of them are made from parts from different rifles that were lined out or ground off and renumbered to the barrel number of the rifle being built. Matching numbers on a refurbished Mosin Nagant means virtually nothing.

Gsragtop · Post by **Gsragtop** » Sat Mar 16, 2013 2:21 pm

Because I don't know what the stamp looks like, which one is the molot stamp???

desdem12 · Post by **desdem12** » Sat Mar 16, 2013 2:31 pm

It is the diamond shaped one on the tang with the 3 letters in it.

WeldonHunter · Post by **WeldonHunter** » Sat Mar 16, 2013 2:35 pm

Gsragtop wrote:Because I don't know what the stamp looks like, which one is the molot stamp???

Here's a few that were on my M91/30 PU. There's simliar ones on the M38's and M44s as well as ones from the Molot partners including the words Waff-Schu. If you look through the Molot sub-forum there's examples of them all. viewforum.php?f=64

wolfstein · Post by **wolfstein** » Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:33 am

Liar Liar, pants on fire.

Post by **Junk Yard Dog** » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:16 am

wolfstein · Post by **wolfstein** » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:57 am

Junk Yard Dog wrote:

The seller claimed he had the rifle in his collectionn for years. How could that be???? Did I miss something?

Post by **Junk Yard Dog** » Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:28 am

wolfstein wrote:
Junk Yard Dog wrote:
The seller claimed he had the rifle in his collectionn for years. How could that be???? Did I miss something?

The technical term is BS, or BullShit, a ploy used by internet auction sellers to help move products in online auctions, and the reason why you should take anything you see like this with a grain of salt. They can, and will say anything to make the product sound better, and will outright make shit up. Not long ago we had a seller claiming the red highlighting found on the markings of some Mosins was a suicide paste that the soldier would lick if being captured. If the seller is not a dealer well known to you just go in figuring evetything they say is crap unless it's something you know from other sources to be true.

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