1916 Izhevsk Finnish Dragoon
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Re: 1916 Izhevsk Finnish Dragoon
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
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Re: 1916 Izhevsk Finnish Dragoon
Like it a lot BD, Czarist era Dragoons are not very easy to find.
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Re: 1916 Izhevsk Finnish Dragoon
WOW!!! Beautiful rifle BD!
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Re: 1916 Izhevsk Finnish Dragoon
Talvisota ( the Winter War) is the one to see, I could only find the Finnish with Russian translation up on youtube, no subtitles, but there is an English subtitled version available on Amazon
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
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Re: 1916 Izhevsk Finnish Dragoon
This is the best version out on DVD that will play in the US.
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
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Re: 1916 Izhevsk Finnish Dragoon
You can start with Wikipedia about the Finnish-SOVIET conflicts. It has good articles on the Winter War and the Continuation War.Stopsign32v wrote:Stunning Dragoon!!!!
Where can I learn more about the Finnish/Russian conflicts in WWI and WWII? Videos? YouTube? Books?
In WWI there was no Finnish-Russian conflict, but the Finnish Civil War took place during the WWI after Finland became independent from the Soviet-Russia. Wikipedia has good article on that too.
And about the film Winter War make sure you acquire the full 4,5 hour version.
Ps. The doc JYD posted makes me always laugh at the point where the old lady tells about Finnish soldiers killing Soviets with puukko-knife because there was no ammo!!
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But in general and othervise than that it's a pretty good doc and introduction to Winter War.
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At least the knife is something one would recognize as a weapon, but many a soldier had his brains bashed out with entrenching tools, was burned to death with Molotov cocktails, clubbed to death with an empty rifle, or just simply beaten to death with bare hands once the ammo ran out. In that situation everything goes.
That Korean market version I put in the Amazon link it the longest I have yet found available in the US, that will play on our DVD players. I think there was a longer version on youtube last year, probably uploaded from Finland, but it seems to be gone now.
That Korean market version I put in the Amazon link it the longest I have yet found available in the US, that will play on our DVD players. I think there was a longer version on youtube last year, probably uploaded from Finland, but it seems to be gone now.
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
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Re: 1916 Izhevsk Finnish Dragoon
Well yeah CQC with melee and ad-hoq melee weaponry ain't pretty. And for sure puukko-knives were popular and handy in CQC, more popular than bayonets.Junk Yard Dog wrote:At least the knife is something one would recognize as a weapon, but many a soldier had his brains bashed out with entrenching tools, was burned to death with Molotov cocktails, clubbed to death with an empty rifle, or just simply beaten to death with bare hands once the ammo ran out. In that situation everything goes.
But the old lady just puts it like it was a rule of thumb to kill Soviets most and above all with puukko-knives as there was no ammo. That was hardly the case!
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That was my point, if there was such a thing in my post.
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Re: 1916 Izhevsk Finnish Dragoon
The shovel. Who posted a SA shovel here on the forum? I can't remember, but one of our Finn collectors. I often wondered how many souls were connected to that shovel.
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Re: 1916 Izhevsk Finnish Dragoon
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Re: 1916 Izhevsk Finnish Dragoon
Read the Finnish Civil War article from Wikipedia. It'll help you to start to understand. Knowing the history is the key here.Stopsign32v wrote:So my PTG rifle that was Austrian captured and the Finnish captured...what would the story be behind that if there was no Finnish conflict in WWI? Also how did the NEW M91s get in Finnish hands?
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Austrian captured rifles in the WWI and sold them to Finland during 1920s.
Many of the late NEWs and 1917 Remingtons were bolshevik weapons aid to Finnish Red Guards. Those came brand new from Petrograd Arsenal. I have one Remington like that. It's still pretty much in same condition as it was in February 1918 when it came to Finland.