Finnish Triggers?
Finnish Triggers?
Reading up on the M24 Lotta Rifle and on Finnish Mosin Nagants in general. I know the Fins designed a "Jam Free" magazine, my 1927 Tikkakoski M91 has one, but not my M24.
I know most (Don't know if all did) M24s had the "Trigger Return Spring", mine doesn't. But in my reading they refer to an Finnish Enhanced Trigger. Does this refer to the Spring or was there more done to the trigger?
Also I see after market Springs for sale with a washer. Does the washer need to be installed? Or could I just install the Spring like the Fins did?
I know most (Don't know if all did) M24s had the "Trigger Return Spring", mine doesn't. But in my reading they refer to an Finnish Enhanced Trigger. Does this refer to the Spring or was there more done to the trigger?
Also I see after market Springs for sale with a washer. Does the washer need to be installed? Or could I just install the Spring like the Fins did?
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Re: Finnish Triggers?
No, way more then just a "spring". The Fin triggers were polished and modded. The spring only removes the "slack" which really does very little for the "pull".
The "finn trigger" that was really different came after the M24.
These triggers started in some M27 and M28, but were used a lot on the M39's
Heavy Polished in the right places.
Russian Trigger
Finn M39 trigger.
Notice the two pins going through it near the top. Above the pivot pin hole which is larger.
This made the pull lighter and much better.
Some people will add them to their regular Mosins to make the pull better. Different view of the trigger so you can see the two pins
M39 trigger
Mod1
Mod2
Darryl
The "finn trigger" that was really different came after the M24.
These triggers started in some M27 and M28, but were used a lot on the M39's
Heavy Polished in the right places.
Russian Trigger
Finn M39 trigger.
Notice the two pins going through it near the top. Above the pivot pin hole which is larger.
This made the pull lighter and much better.
Some people will add them to their regular Mosins to make the pull better. Different view of the trigger so you can see the two pins
M39 trigger
Mod1
Mod2
Darryl
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My M24 has a regular trigger with no return spring.
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Cautionary Note:
Don't modify your trigger. You may end up injured because you screwed it up.
It could be very dangerous to do that type of work on your own!!!
this is informational only.
Dolk
Don't modify your trigger. You may end up injured because you screwed it up.
It could be very dangerous to do that type of work on your own!!!
this is informational only.
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Basically (I think) the two pins make the trigger into a two stage trigger. One pin removes the "slack" that the spring used to. The second pin make the pull easier and faster.
So it's kind of a two stage trigger. I'm not sure you really need a "spring" with the M39 style trigger.
Dolk
So it's kind of a two stage trigger. I'm not sure you really need a "spring" with the M39 style trigger.
Dolk
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Trust me I won't be modifying anything. Was just curious about the trigger return spring and the enhanced trigger.
I'll have to look at my trigger in my M24 and see if it's been worked. I know there is no return spring, and didn't know if all M24s had them or not.
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Re: Finnish Triggers?
Mine (early SIG) has no spring.
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Trigger from Finn M91 PL marked. What's the purpose of the smaller hole?
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Just looked at my 1927 Tikkakoski step barrel and the trigger has two holes like the above one does. Haven't broke the M24 down yet to look at the trigger on it.
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Re: Finnish Triggers?
If it is a "Finn" trigger, the two holes will have a small "pin" running through them also. Not just holes. If it does, it has the "better" trigger in it.
I need to get out in the garage and look around. I think I have about 6 of those "better" triggers I bought years ago> If you want to make your Mosin work a lot better, it is a non-distructive way of doing it and is reversible by just removing the trigger pin and spring screw and replacing the original trigger back on it.
I have a refurbished M38 that I take everywhere when I go shooting. It has a Finn trigger in it. The original is in a baby food jar in the garage and labeled. Makes a huge difference to me.
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No extra pin on the 27 Tikkakoski, just the extra hole. Still need to look at the M24.dolk wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 6:17 pmIf it is a "Finn" trigger, the two holes will have a small "pin" running through them also. Not just holes. If it does, it has the "better" trigger in it.
I need to get out in the garage and look around. I think I have about 6 of those "better" triggers I bought years ago> If you want to make your Mosin work a lot better, it is a non-distructive way of doing it and is reversible by just removing the trigger pin and spring screw and replacing the original trigger back on it.
I have a refurbished M38 that I take everywhere when I go shooting. It has a Finn trigger in it. The original is in a baby food jar in the garage and labeled. Makes a huge difference to me.
Darryl
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