Vietnam bring back Mosin. Chinese Type 53?
-
- Posts: 12
- Joined: Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:30 pm
Re: Vietnam bring back Mosin. Chinese Type 53?
I think that is a 1960. Has it been refinished?
“Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.” George Orwell, English novelist, essayist, and critic, 1903-1950
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
C. S. Lewis
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
C. S. Lewis
-
- Posts: 12
- Joined: Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:30 pm
Re: Vietnam bring back Mosin. Chinese Type 53?
Not sure. I didn't know he even had this. Came over for lunch and handed it to me along with the story how he got it.
Re: Vietnam bring back Mosin. Chinese Type 53?
It looks to be in very nice condition for a T53 in general, and especially so for a bring back. More pics would help us evaluate it.
“Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.” George Orwell, English novelist, essayist, and critic, 1903-1950
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
C. S. Lewis
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
C. S. Lewis
-
- Posts: 12
- Joined: Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:30 pm
-
- Posts: 12
- Joined: Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:30 pm
-
- Posts: 12
- Joined: Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:30 pm
Re: Vietnam bring back Mosin. Chinese Type 53?
That must be a 6. He must have refinished it.
- Junk Yard Dog
- Owner/Founder
- Posts: 48765
- Joined: Sat Aug 27, 2011 12:54 pm
- Location: New York
Re: Vietnam bring back Mosin. Chinese Type 53?
The lack of blue on the metal is typical of many like it I have seen including my own, rubbed clean by many hands and southeastern Asian humidity. The stock looks cleaned. One characteristic of every type 53 I have seen bringback or later import is that dark Chinese Chu wood. The bringback ones tend to be the darkest. Nice gift, priceless given that you got the story with it from the man himself. Ask him if he kept the paperwork he would have had to bring the rifle back into the US when he rotated home. That's 1960, not 1950, just a poorly stamped 6
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
-
- Posts: 12
- Joined: Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:30 pm
Re: Vietnam bring back Mosin. Chinese Type 53?
He did give us paperwork. He's a great guy and an awesome father.
I'll ask him, but knowing he's a brilliant carpenter and cabinet maker with a mild case of OCD, I suspect he probably did something to it in the past. Doesn't matter, I'm keeping it in the family in his honor.
A 6 makes sense. I didn't know much about Mosin nagants before this. I just wanted to make sure that wasn't a 5. It wouldn't make sense after reading the history of arsenal 26.
Thanks for the info.
I'll ask him, but knowing he's a brilliant carpenter and cabinet maker with a mild case of OCD, I suspect he probably did something to it in the past. Doesn't matter, I'm keeping it in the family in his honor.
A 6 makes sense. I didn't know much about Mosin nagants before this. I just wanted to make sure that wasn't a 5. It wouldn't make sense after reading the history of arsenal 26.
Thanks for the info.
Re: Vietnam bring back Mosin. Chinese Type 53?
Nice T53, and a great story Below are some comments from an old post here on the forum about the T53.
#9 Re: My 100 dollar beat up t53
Postby yiping » Sat Feb 01, 2014 6:28 pm
In late May 1960, In order to support North Vietnam. Chinese Central Military Commission approved Project "Green light" It is an emergency assistance to N.V.
The CCP First Ministry of Machinery Industry ordered the factory 26 to make 10K T53 rifles. They also refurbished 20k T53 rifles at the same time. Both jobs had to be done before Oct. 1960.
Information is from the book "Chinese made military rifles 1949~1989" published in 2013 by Tze-Dao Chuang
#11 Re: My 100 dollar beat up t53
Postby yiping » Sat Feb 01, 2014 6:46 pm
Junk Yard Dog wrote:
Is there an English translation yet?
There is not a plan to do a English version at this time. This book has some very good and new information.
Need to make a correction : Project "Green light" production number :1960 made T53 should be 100K rifles. Refurbished T53 should be 200k rifles. All 300K were send to N.V.
#9 Re: My 100 dollar beat up t53
Postby yiping » Sat Feb 01, 2014 6:28 pm
In late May 1960, In order to support North Vietnam. Chinese Central Military Commission approved Project "Green light" It is an emergency assistance to N.V.
The CCP First Ministry of Machinery Industry ordered the factory 26 to make 10K T53 rifles. They also refurbished 20k T53 rifles at the same time. Both jobs had to be done before Oct. 1960.
Information is from the book "Chinese made military rifles 1949~1989" published in 2013 by Tze-Dao Chuang
#11 Re: My 100 dollar beat up t53
Postby yiping » Sat Feb 01, 2014 6:46 pm
Junk Yard Dog wrote:
Is there an English translation yet?
There is not a plan to do a English version at this time. This book has some very good and new information.
Need to make a correction : Project "Green light" production number :1960 made T53 should be 100K rifles. Refurbished T53 should be 200k rifles. All 300K were send to N.V.
-
- Posts: 12
- Joined: Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:30 pm
Re: Vietnam bring back Mosin. Chinese Type 53?
Thanks for the info.
-
- Posts: 12
- Joined: Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:30 pm
Re: Vietnam bring back Mosin. Chinese Type 53?
I would really appreciate some advice.
If you look close, the top hand guard is broke in half with the front missing. Should I replace it? The rifle is staying in the family. Going to my son out of my cold dead hands. I kind of think that the broken guard tells a little bit of its story. Thanks for any advice.
If you look close, the top hand guard is broke in half with the front missing. Should I replace it? The rifle is staying in the family. Going to my son out of my cold dead hands. I kind of think that the broken guard tells a little bit of its story. Thanks for any advice.
- Junk Yard Dog
- Owner/Founder
- Posts: 48765
- Joined: Sat Aug 27, 2011 12:54 pm
- Location: New York
Re: Vietnam bring back Mosin. Chinese Type 53?
Might as well leave it as is, any replacement would seriously mismatch on the finish.
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
-
- Posts: 12
- Joined: Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:30 pm
- Junk Yard Dog
- Owner/Founder
- Posts: 48765
- Joined: Sat Aug 27, 2011 12:54 pm
- Location: New York
Re: Vietnam bring back Mosin. Chinese Type 53?
Normal for this type of rifle given were it came from and the use it saw. Some of that might clean up either from shooting or cleaning, try JB bore paste. In the trade that's called a dark bore.
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
-
- Posts: 12
- Joined: Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:30 pm
Re: Vietnam bring back Mosin. Chinese Type 53?
Thank you JYD. Will do.