YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID

[motorjon68]

Make sure you give a full report. Makes me glad I didn't go!

[Longcolt44]

I have talked to others that were there and the original story I posted was accurate. Here is a link to the only article by the local media The Wilmington News Journal. https://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/author ... -gun-show/

[qz2026]

This seller should be banned from future shows. You expect sellers, out of all people, to be the most cautious. To have a loaded handgun, or any gun for that matter, in a show is sheer stupidity. And this makes us all look bad and I am waiting for the liberal commies (Obama included) to get ahold of this story. All it takes is one asshole to ruin it for everyone.

[Judi and her Mosins]

I don't forgive stupid when it puts my life, or my friends lives at risk, I don't forget it either, People get dead real fast when somebody fails to follow the rules of firearms safely, some people can live with taking somebody else's life because of a negligent discharge, I don't think I could.
ALL GUNS ARE LOADED ALL THE TIME
YOU OWN EVERY ROUND THAT COMES OUT OF THAT WEAPON
finger OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOU ARE READY TO FIRE
NEVER POINT A WEAPON AT ANYTHING THAT YOU DO NOT WANT TO DESTROY
ALWAYS KNOW WHAT IS BEHIND WHAT YOU SHOOT AT
SLOW COUNT TO 50 IF A ROUND FAILS TO FIRE , KEEP WEAPON ON TARGET
ALWAYS SECURE YOUR WEAPON
ALWAYS INSPECT YOUR WEAPON BEFORE LOADING AND FIRING
NEVER LET ME CATCH YOU TREATING YOUR WEAPON LIKE A TOY, FONDEL WHAT THE LORD GAVE YOU IF YOU MUST, BUT NEVER A FIREARM

There are other rules, but these are the big ones everyone who shoots with me learns, when gun people fuck up with a firearm it makes every one of us look bad, a blanket party has nothing on the beating thumbless would get from me after the hospital and cops got done with him if he was one of mine.

Words of Wisdom ..........Sound Advice. Judi and her Mosin's

[zeebill]

Frankly my first thought is whether we admit it or not we are all very stupid at times. Usually the ones that shout the loudest to hang the man are the worst offenders. I am sorry if anyone takes this personally but that has just been my experience. It is just a culmination of many years around similar accidents and a damming tendency toward honesty and the knowledge that old age will really help you do stupid things.

OK keeping the fact that we are all human and do things with increasing frequency that will qualify as being pretty stupid as we get older. I will flat outright say the one who made the negligent discharge happen should be done there as a participant regardless of his pedigree for a lifetime period. The results considering the possibilities may be considered minor, although painful to some, and the club should learn from this and change things. Many promoters require tie raps and actively check to see that you have them in place before the public is allowed in the hall and that if you insist on carrying that gun is tie rapped and chamber empty too.

I have noticed one repeated failure in most cases and that is seller responsibility to ensure that he has followed the rules both on his table of wares and on his carried weapons. When the rule is no loaded hand guns that includes your personal one too! So many times I see dealers running around with what I sure think looks like a loaded firearm and if you approach them they give you a ration of crap you really don't deserve. Unfortunately many dealers think they are over and above the rules and really have a bad attitude if you jump them about it. I even had one tell me I keep it loaded in case someone tries to steal one of mine or your guns. Great I really need a 70 year old armed guard who wears glasses thicker than coke bottles to protect me in a great big crowd?

I have gone to the promoter more than once to complain about the situation above and usually they are quick to react and jump the offender. I have a few people who I set up next to that flat scare me with their muzzle control of their weapons loaded or other wise. I set all my long rifles on the table aimed toward me or the wall behind me just in case and I try to only get wall tables if possible. Even with all the effort I make I still often find tie raps missing? I often find no real reason how that has happened to make it even more frustrating. I listen to all the wild stories about anti gunners removing tie raps and loading guns on unsuspecting dealers tables but I have never found that to be true in my experience.

A gun show should be a good experience for a buyer or a seller as we are all people with similar likings and all should be responsible in our actions. When the problems occur is when we all fail to do the right things as responsible adults and the human factor enters the scene. This is when unfortunate incidents occur and sometimes innocent people get hurt. But added into this is sometimes we are all stupid innocent human beings! Bill

[Junk Yard Dog]

I shout pretty fuckin loud about this crap Bill, and I go far out of my way to avoid stupid and dangerous behavior with firearms or any weapons. I check things three times, four times, five times, every time, I do this because I know my memory is shit, and I never, ever forget that every firearms is loaded, safety off, round in the chamber. I will jump on the offender, his stupidity not only injured himself but far worse he injured somebody else, and did so in public making every gun owner look bad. There is zero room for accidents involving firearms. Firearm safety is second nature to me, I may die any number of ways but I will not go from accidentally shooting myself, and I while I have no problem shooting somebody else if they deserve it, I will not do it by accident. I practice what I preach at home by myself, and ramp it up even more when I am with a group. When I bring a group to the range it's my way or the highway, if they don't like it they can pack up and go home. Firearms are not a fuckin game, people get dead when we fuck up, offenders end up in prison, I will pound without mercy on anyone who violates the basic safety rules of gun handling, and if they can't manage to get their shit together then it's time they keep hands off guns altogether.

[Junk Yard Dog]

Handle firearms with the utmost care, handle them that way every time, this is one part of your life that must be 100% perfect all the time. There are no acceptable excuses for hurting or killing someone because you failed to follow the rules of firearm safety. The life you save by avoiding a negligent discharge could be mine.

[awalker1829]

I shout pretty fuckin loud about this crap Bill, and I go far out of my way to avoid stupid and dangerous behavior with firearms or any weapons. I check things three times, four times, five times, every time, I do this because I know my memory is shit, and I never, ever forget that every firearms is loaded, safety off, round in the chamber. I will jump on the offender, his stupidity not only injured himself but far worse he injured somebody else, and did so in public making every gun owner look bad. There is zero room for accidents involving firearms. Firearm safety is second nature to me, I may die any number of ways but I will not go from accidentally shooting myself, and I while I have no problem shooting somebody else if they deserve it, I will not do it by accident. I practice what I preach at home by myself, and ramp it up even more when I am with a group. When I bring a group to the range it's my way or the highway, if they don't like it they can pack up and go home. Firearms are not a fuckin game, people get dead when we fuck up, offenders end up in prison, I will pound without mercy on anyone who violates the basic safety rules of gun handling, and if they can't manage to get their shit together then it's time they keep hands off guns altogether.

Justifiably so. There is no such thing as an accident with firearms. Negligence is inexcusable. Hopefully that clown will be out of the firearms trades once the lawyers are done with him. Yes, everyone is a safety officer where firearms are concerned. EVERY firearm is LIVE until you have VERIFIED THAT IT IS NOT LOADED! Never point a firearm at anything that is not a target. NEVER, EVER POINT ANY FIREARM AT ANY PERSON-REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT IT IS LOADED. Same goes for replica non-firing guns. Best case scenario, you'll get royally chewed out or beaten up by folks like me and JYD. Worst case scenario, you're dead.

[Junk Yard Dog]

Dead or in prison were they will be exploring the world of same sex relationships for many years. I know enough CO's to be able to tell you that all the bad shit you hear about what goes on in prison is true.

[awalker1829]

Indeed. Been to plenty of state institutions and jails-never involuntary though. Just doing business. Took a tour of our county jail a few years back as part of continuing education for our court system. It was the primary jail-our county being geographically large enough to require a second jail on the western end. The primary jail has four wings and is as big as a prison in some states.

[Junk Yard Dog]

A friend of mine was on the job down in NYC's Rikers Island until he retired, not a fun place, the story's...... Clinton correctional, Greenhaven, Sing Sing, all garden spots nobody wants to visit. One of our customers did 25 years Fed time for bank robbery and three counts of attempted murder of a federal agent, he has a different set of prison story's. Our county jail is a modern facility, the sheriff makes a little extra by renting out cell space to other county's when it's available, they have a food service in the jail so good it's used to cater county functions. Here I am nibbling on tube steak and ramen noodles while the prisoners have a Culinary Institute of America trained chef feeding them real food all the time, oh, and top shelf medical care also, the county budget is taking a hit because of the cost's related to that. Too man y prisoners with serious medical conditions. I know the chef, he loves to tell me what the prisoners are eating.

[awalker1829]

Out here, the county jail inmates get the same quality stuff that the school board gets. Conmed is the healthcare provider and they generally keep costs down. Visitation is now video only except for attorney-client consults. Those can still be in person. Saves the county a good chunk of money and eliminates one more method of smuggling contraband. Inmate population went down, so the jail converted one cell in each unit to a visitation station. No need to escort the inmate anywhere. When their visitation comes up, they go in the station and connect to the visitors unit in Administration. County attorney public defenders also use it for most attorney-client matters. It saves them a good deal of driving time and allows them to work with more clients.

Only downside is that the jail is about three miles from the courthouse. Sheriff maintains a fleet of transport wagons solely to transport inmates for court appearances. In my hometown (Chattanooga, TN) the jail is downtown, right across the street from the new courts building. When the court was being built, they built a tunnel to connect it to the jail. Being a tower structure, the exercise yard is on the fourth floor. No one has managed to escape via that route successfully either.

[Junk Yard Dog]

One individual who was detained for questioning did manage to escape from the Sheriff's facility. He was left unattended in one of the interview rooms with apparently no eyes on the camera either. He wiggled out of the restraints, pulled a screen off a small window, opened the window and reached a drain pipe, slid down three floors to the ground and vanished. We learned about this when the alert system was activated, this system calls every number in a specified area with an automated message outlining the emergency. Robbery homicide suspect escapes jail at large on foot in the area, considered dangerous. A day later he was found in a wooded area with injury's sustained when he fell off the drain pipe during the escape. He awaits trial on numerous charges, if they can hold on to him that is. The Sheriff is a retired army one star, putting up with bullshit is just not in his makeup, from what I heard heads rolled, someone retired, and a few more someone's got torn a new one. Procedures also changed.

[awalker1829]

Admin offices here are several miles from the main jail. The main jail sits colocated with several other county facilities. The construction is typical prison standard-impact resistant sealed glass windows. I don't recall any escape attempts there.

[Junk Yard Dog]

The escape was not from the jail itself, the prisoner was in the Sheriffs office waiting to be interviewed by detectives. Nobody has escaped from the jail here, most prisoners are only there for one year, any longer sentences are served at the states correctional facilities.

[Jumperwire]

A Gunshow I went to in RALIEGH, that kinda happened. A guy was checking in his shotgun and it went off. Don't know the details. They kept everyone in the show until things settled down. That was..... different. Some people. The first basic rule is treat every firearm as if it were loaded. I have no other words.

[Darryl]

[redspoon]

That is insane, and they are among us.

[ffuries]

After seeing that video it looks like practice for population control. How can so many idiots get so damn lucky? Makes me almost too damn scare to go to a public shooting range now.

[Junk Yard Dog]

The Darwin effect in actual operation, however none of these idiots died from their stupidity, at least not in these instances. The one with the girl is the typical youtube video setup of lets give the biggest magnum to the smallest person and film it as they fire it for the first time. Of course the victim is given no warning and told it's an easy gun to shoot. The last one was also a setup, shotgun just conveniently falls over and fires in the exact direction of the idiot? He wasn't screaming nearly loud enough and was too far away to see if there was blood. Always be suspicious of youtube videos like this, youtube has a partner agreement that many take advantage of, they place advertising in the videos and for each hit the poster gets a share of the profit. This has people trying to come up with the next viral video, most of the setups are clumsy at best, or you get the idiots who do stupid and dangerous shit on purpose to get you to watch. This video is a compilation of material lifted from other peoples look at the stupid shit I did videos, whoever created it was smart enough not to do the stupid shit themselves.