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I just got this rifle because I believe its a SCW rifle.
It does not have the made in USSR/URRS stamp but it also has no other import marks.
It is a 1937 Izhevsk, it is a total mix master, well worn but still useable rifling, no refurb, crude cleaning rod, stock damage that has been back cut to stop the crack/splits and has a couple of repairs.
The only issue I see and cant explain is the bent bolt, did bubba get his paws on this? No other signs of bubba.
Did you take the stock off and check for any import marks? My Molot has the import markings on the barrel but you cannot see it unless you take the stock off.
Interesting for sure. The cleaning rod looks like many from Spain, the overall metal condition looks right. It's a bubba bent bolt handle though.
The stock is interesting. It looks like the front had a typical Soviet repair that failed, but I've not seen that type of repair on an SCW. Also the serial on the stock isnt typical for SCW either. I may be wrong but maybe the stock was switched out after import, or it may be a balkans rifle that missed getting stamped.
Nice looking rifle though. Dang bubba and his bent bolts.
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The front damage looks like a split that was cut down to, to stop it splitting any more. The down cut is smooth, the long side is rough like it would be from a split. There is a same kind of repair where the cleaning rod enters the stock.
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I don't know about the SCW angle, I mean it does have the look, but How would you be sure? It is a good looking rifle, and it reminds me of a question I have pondered many time about the bent bolt. It isn't bent as much as what the typical bubba bent bolt sniper wanna be bolt would be. These pop up from time to time and instantly the thread usually get all kinds of bubba comments. Personally I don't like to be so quick to credit bubba with every little thing that comes along. There are so many things we don't know about the history including who used this particular rifle for instance. Could a soldier have had a personal perference to bend the bolt, and polish it back out to shine? Would it be forbidden for a soldier to alter his firearm? I don't know any of this. It looks like it might have been bent by making a relief cut in teh under side, bending it then welding it back up. Then grinding or filing smooth and polishing. I know I have seen guys ask about these before with similar bolts and decide not to buy them, but I don't see it as a hasty detractor myself. Your rifle definitely has some nice features.
Nice Certainly has Spanish characteristics Nice patina.
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Who knows why there are rifles with bent bolts. Maybe the soldier wanted it that way. I know our military modifies their rifle to suit their personal needs. I shoot left handed and I can unlock this bolt with my supporting hand while still supporting the rifle at the mag. A straight bolt I have to take my hand off more to reach the knob.
couple more pics
Bolt still has crap in it so it has not been shot much in this state.
Is the bolt bent enough to clear a scope?
Split part of stock removed. you can see the saw mark used to remove it. Don't know who or when this was done.
My guess would be it's from the Spanish hoard , but that Bolt is pure Bubba, the Spanish, either Republican, or Nationalist wouldn't have bothered with doing that shit.
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
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One solution on the bolt is to replace it as the numbers do not march. I have several rifles with those cut outs but they have wood replaced. Could be the glue didn't take and the repairs fell out.
My only issue is the date of the rifle. The SCW went from July 36 until April 39. As a 1937, it would be a new issue rifle.
Damn, I'll bet that's going to leave a mark! Probably hurt too!
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Ironnewt wrote:My only issue is the date of the rifle. The SCW went from July 36 until April 39. As a 1937, it would be a new issue rifle.
A lot of '37 date mosins rolled right off the assembly lines and went right to Spain. I've owned a few with the USSR stamp.
I keep coming back to the stock though. I've never seen a Spanish import mosin with a serial number on the wood like that.
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Damn, I'll bet that's going to leave a mark! Probably hurt too!
"I think Congressmen should wear uniforms,
you know, like NASCAR drivers, so we could
identify their corporate sponsors."
"When I die, I want to be facing my enemies surrounded by their dead bodies and piles of spent brass"
"Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience." - Mark Twain
Hard to tell from my phone but the cleaning rod looks SCW,, but the stock shows both russian repair traits and the stock sn location and font looks just link the ones on my yugo 24/47. The bolt is pure bubba though. I will have to look this up back on line sunday evening
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