Hungarian BM52 PU sniper M1891/30
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Hungarian BM52 PU sniper M1891/30
I shot some new pics of this one, possibly one of the grimmest rifles in my collection. North Vietnamese sniper rifle provided to them by their socialist brothers in Hungary and captured someplace in Cambodia in 1971 by US Forces. This rifle was captured in combat by the veteran I bought it from, it has been used to kill US soldiers and that makes it fairly unique in my collection. Fully matching, Hungarian country code 02 marked on everything, and in the exact condition as when it was captured just about 30 years ago. The former owner is someone I know locally, he fell on hard times back in the 90's and sold me the rifle with the stipulation that he could buy it back and that I must never sell it. It's been 17 years now and I have not heard a peep about it, I suppose he decided to put bad memory's behind him. It's not a nice feeling when you pick up a rifle like this with a known past, I can't help but think that there are names on that wall in DC because of the use this rifle was put to. It spends most of it's time in storage, this is the first time it's been out since 2006, and it's going right back again.
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
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The commerce which maybe carried on with the people inhabiting the line you will pursue renders a knowledge of these people important ~Thomas Jefferson~ (to- Lewis and Clark)
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WOW...... That is a way cool rifle JYD.
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Thanks Miller, good to see you around.
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
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Thanks JYD, been a busy summer around here and haven't had much time to get on the forums, but the weather is turning so I will have more time to enjoy the new forum.
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Whoa... That's one you don't see everyday. A true bringback, sniper & Hungarian to boot!
Jim, that would bring some serious coin on Auction. If the seller wants it back after 17 years, could you sell it back for purchase price?? Tough call.
Jim, that would bring some serious coin on Auction. If the seller wants it back after 17 years, could you sell it back for purchase price?? Tough call.
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That is very unique. My son has a problem with a few of my rifles that have been used againt our troops, he would have a tack-a-heart over that one.
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I paid over $650 for this at the time, at auction I have seen $4000+ on the very rare occasions they come up. The seller is a Marine combat Veteran of the Vietnam War, he captured this rifle personally, something confirmed by no less than two other Marines who served with him who also belong to the local Marine Corp league. The man was a young 20 something junior officer at the time, and from what I was told he had the sort of war they make movies about, he wants it back he gets it without hesitation. After the divorce he moved away, and I have no great expectation that he will show up for it after all this time. This is far from my favorite milsurp, it's one thing to suspect a rifle could have killed my fellow Americans like any German Mauser, but with this one I know it has, every time I take this rifle out I think of all the names on that dam wall in DC. I keep it because I promised I would, and because of the history it represents, that war needs to be remembered as do the men and women who fought in on our behalf.
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
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Amen!
The commerce which maybe carried on with the people inhabiting the line you will pursue renders a knowledge of these people important ~Thomas Jefferson~ (to- Lewis and Clark)
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Truly unique in configuration, condition and history. And a firearm with a personal connection. Keep it safe and respected.
I also have a half dozen rifles from the Vietnam theater, and the thoughts go not only to the hail of fire that came our way, but to the soldiers that also relinquished these War Trophies, and most like with the ultimate sacrifice of their lives. Sobering thoughts, but the collection remains for the purpose of "Lest we forget".
The finger worn grooves on the underside fore-grip of the following Chinese-stocked East German SKS are ensconced in its history. The significance of the grasp that once carried the gun is preserved, as it is for the jungle grime on the Hungarian sniper.
I also have a half dozen rifles from the Vietnam theater, and the thoughts go not only to the hail of fire that came our way, but to the soldiers that also relinquished these War Trophies, and most like with the ultimate sacrifice of their lives. Sobering thoughts, but the collection remains for the purpose of "Lest we forget".
The finger worn grooves on the underside fore-grip of the following Chinese-stocked East German SKS are ensconced in its history. The significance of the grasp that once carried the gun is preserved, as it is for the jungle grime on the Hungarian sniper.
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Nice SKS I have a Chinese SKS, a type 53 carbine, and an old French Lebel carbine that were brought home from that war. I will have to find the pics I took of the SKS and post it again when I have more time.
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Nice SKS Martin.
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Very nice Martin, that SKS sure speaks to its history.
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Your a good Man JYD. I would be tempted to say "Are you sure it wasn't a Ukrainian Refurb you sold me?"
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This is about as far from a Ukrainian refurb as you can get
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
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moved to the sniper forum
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
Re: Hungarian BM52 PU sniper M1891/30
very nice example of a real MN sniper.
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The rifle gets my vote for the showcase.Junk Yard Dog wrote:moved to the sniper forum
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Re: Hungarian BM52 PU sniper M1891/30
That it is, unfortunately one that killed Americans and not Nazi's.kermit wrote:very nice example of a real MN sniper.
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
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As to the rifles use.......Junk Yard Dog wrote:That it is, unfortunately one that killed Americans and not Nazi's.kermit wrote:very nice example of a real MN sniper.
The rifle itself is merely an implement of war, it is people and countries with their ideals or beliefs that actually do the fighting.
JYD It is a fine rifle. (I didn't want to appear insensitive and I understand your reservations) thanks for posting it.