327 different variations of mosins. Wow I didn't know

[Hammer22801]

Russia and the Soviet Union Return to Top

M91

Configuration #1, finger rest, no handguard, early barrel bands, flat rear sight, no recoil bolt, no sling slots, sling swivels and short cleaning rod (Chatellerault, Tula, Izhevsk, or Sestroryetsk)
Configuration #2, no finger rest, no handguard, early barrel bands, flat rear sight, no recoil bolt, no sling slots, sling swivels and short cleaning rod (Chatellerault, Tula, Izhevsk, or Sestroryetsk)
Configuration #3, no finger rest, handguard, early barrel bands with handguard notches, flat rear sight, no recoil bolt, no sling slots, sling swivels and short cleaning rod (Chatellerault, Tula, Izhevsk, or Sestroryetsk)
Configuration #4, no finger rest, handguard, early barrel bands with handguard notches, flat rear sight, no recoil bolt, no sling slots, sling swivels and long cleaning rod (Tula, Izhevsk, or Sestroryetsk)
Configuration #5, no finger rest, handguard, early barrel bands with handguard notches, flat rear sight, no recoil bolt, no sling slots, sling swivel at magazine only and long cleaning rod (Tula, Izhevsk, or Sestroryetsk)
Configuration #6, no finger rest, handguard, early barrel bands with handguard notches, flat rear sight, no recoil bolt, sling slots, no sling swivels and long cleaning rod (Tula, Izhevsk, or Sestroryetsk)
Configuration #7, no finger rest, handguard, early barrel bands with handguard notches, Konovalov rear sight, no recoil bolt, sling slots, no sling swivels and long cleaning rod (Tula, Izhevsk, or Sestroryetsk)
Configuration #8, no finger rest, handguard, early barrel bands with handguard notches, Konovalov rear sight, wooden recoil bolt, sling slots, no sling swivels and long cleaning rod (Tula, Izhevsk, or Sestroryetsk)
Configuration #9, no finger rest, handguard, early barrel bands with handguard notches, Konovalov rear sight, steel recoil bolt, sling slots, no sling swivels and long cleaning rod (Tula, Izhevsk, or Sestroryetsk)
Configuration #10, no finger rest, handguard, late barrel bands with handguard notches, Konovalov rear sight, steel recoil bolt, sling slots, no sling swivels and long cleaning rod (Tula, Izhevsk, Sestroryetsk, New England Westinghouse, or Remington)
For more information and pictures of the ten configurations listed above see the Russian/Soviet M91 page.
Chatellerault arsenal mark
Izhevsk, Imperial arsenal mark, 1892-1917?
Izhevsk, first Soviet arsenal mark with old style spelling, 1917?-1922?
Izhevsk, second Soviet arsenal mark, 1922?-1926
Sestroryetsk arsenal mark1892-1918
Tula, first Imperial arsenal mark, 1891
Tula, second Imperial arsenal mark, 1892-1912
Tula, Peter the Great arsenal mark, 1912-1918
Tula, Transitional altered Peter the Great arsenal mark, 1918
Tula, Large Hammer arsenal mark, 1918-1919
Tula, Script arsenal mark, 1919
Tula, first RSFSR arsenal mark, 1919-1920
Tula, second RSFSR arsenal mark, 1920-1924
Tula, USSR arsenal mark, 1924-1926
Remington, first arsenal mark with serifs, 1915-1917
Remington, second arsenal mark sans serif, 1917-1918
New England Westinghouse, curved arsenal mark with large arc
New England Westinghouse, curved arsenal mark with small arc
New England Westinghouse, straight arsenal mark with “soft” eagle
New England Westinghouse, straight arsenal mark with “sharp” eagle
New England Westinghouse with Fox Arms subcontracted receiver
Dragoon

Early configuration with flat rear sight leaf and no recoil crossbolt
Late configuration with Konovalov curved rear sight leaf and recoil crossbolt
Early handguard which wraps around the rear sight
Early handguard with rear cut back to form “ears” at front of rear sight
Late handguard made with ears reinforced with metal band and front metal endcap
Izhevsk, Imperial arsenal mark, 1893-1917?
Izhevsk, first Soviet arsenal mark with old style spelling, 1917?-1922?
Izhevsk, second Soviet arsenal mark with new style spelling, 1922?-1928
Izhevsk, third Soviet arsenal mark, 1928-1932
Tula, RSFSR arsenal mark, 1923-1924
Tula, USSR arsenal mark, 1924-1928
Tula, second Soviet arsenal mark, 1928-1932
Cossack

Early configuration with flat rear sight leaf and no recoil crossbolt
Late configuration with Konovalov curved rear sight leaf and recoil crossbolt
Izhevsk, Imperial arsenal mark, 1894-1917
Izhevsk, Soviet arsenal mark, 1917-1922
M1907 Carbine

Early configuration with rear sight to 1900 arshinii
Late configuration with rear sight to 2000 arshinii
M91/30

Updated from Tula Dragoon
Updated from Izhevsk Dragoon
Updated from Cossack
Early configuration with button style barrel bands and tall blade front sight
Tula hex receiver
Tula round low wall receiver
Tula round high wall receiver
Izhevsk hex receiver
Izhevsk round low wall receiver
Izhevsk round high wall receiver
Laminated stock
Spliced stock
Izhevsk built on earlier receiver
Tula built on earlier receiver
MO marked with second date
MO marked with second and third dates
XO marked
Double dated (ie. 1936-7)
Izhevsk 1934 “PM 86” marked
PE sniper with hex receiver mount
PE sniper with round receiver mount
PEM sniper with side rail mount
PU sniper
Decommissioned PE sniper with hex receiver
Decommissioned PE sniper with round receiver
Decommissioned PEM sniper
Decommissioned PU sniper
Izhevsk round receiver trials rifle
Simonov trials rifle
Late single shot training rifle with fixed rear sight
Finnish SA marked refurbished in Ukraine
Hungarian rifle refurbished in Ukraine
M38 Carbine

Early stock with short rear handguard section
Izhevsk round low wall receiver
Izhevsk round high wall receiver
Izhevsk hex receiver
Tula round low wall receiver
Tula round high wall receiver
Tula hex receiver
MO marked with second date
MO marked with second and third dates
Laminated stock (no bayonet groove)
M44 Carbine

Izhevsk round low wall receiver
Izhevsk round high wall receiver
Izhevsk hex receiver
Tula round low wall receiver
Tula round high wall receiver
Tula hex receiver
Cut down from M91 rifle
MO marked with second date
MO marked with second and third dates
XO marked
Laminated stock
Early bayonet and narrow front sight
Late bayonet and narrow front sight
Late bayonet and wide front sight
With training marks and stock painted black
Miscellaneous

St. Petersburg Calvary School Carbine
Intermediate length rifle with folding bayonet
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M91

Russian M91 with Finnish marks and/or modifications
Russian M91 converted by Austria to 8X50R and converted back to 7.62X54R by Finland
"SAT Riihimäki"
"SAKO Riihimäki"
Tikkakoski (T in triangle) with 1920s date on the bottom of the barrel
Tikkakoski (T in triangle) with 1920s date on the top of the barrel
Tikkakoski (T in triangle) with stepped barrel
Tikkakoski late mark (T in triangle in circle) with 1940s date
State Rifle Factory early mark (V.K.T. in polygon)
State Rifle Factory late mark (VKT in polygon)
B barrel
B barrel with VKT mark
B barrel with VKT mark and Leige proof
Arms Depot 1 (AV1) mark
P-26 mark
P-27 mark
PUOLUSTUSLAITOS mark on Finnish barrel
PUOLUSTUSLAITOS mark on Russian barrel
PR.2 mark
With stock disk
With one-piece Finnish stock
With two-piece Finnish stock
With spliced Russian stock
With round receiver
M24

SIG straight barrel
SIG stepped barrel
Bohler-Stahl barrel
KLP marked
NSD marked
Set back and rechambered barrel with “Christmas tree” mark
M24rv cavalry carbine
M91rv

Russian Dragoon rifle with Finnish stock modifications for sling attachment
Dragoon

Russian barrel with Finnish modification and/or marks
Front sight modification with protective ears around the blade
M27

Tikkakoski (T in triangle)
State Rifle Factory (V.K.T. in polygon)
Early nose cap
Late nose cap with reinforcement
With “ski troop” front sling swivel
Russian stock
Russian stock with splice
One piece Finnish stock
With stock disk
PUOLUSTUSLAITOS mark
With “Mauser” style safety
M27rv cavalry carbine
M28

SIG (marked below woodline)
Tikkakoski (T in triangle)
Two piece nose cap
One piece nose cap
Double rear sling slots (ski trooper)
Windage adjustable rear sight
M28/30

Sk.Y no date
Sk.Y with date
Upgraded from M28
No maker late date
No maker no date
Civilian sales
With “2” barrel mark
M39

SAKO
Sk.Y
VKT
VKT cut down from M91
Tikka
1920s dated Tikka
B barrel
B barrel, round receiver
No maker late date
No maker no date
“48” mark
PUOLUSTUSLAITOS mark
PSV mark
“2” mark
Russian barrel
Straight stock with no pistol grip
Wartime stock
Transitional stock
Post war stock
M91/30

Soviet M91/30 with Finnish marks and/or modifications
Updated from Russian/Soviet Dragoon
Tikkakoski (T in triangle in circle) on hex receiver
Tikkakoski (T in triangle in circle) on round low wall receiver
Tikkakoski (T in triangle in circle) on round high wall receiver
Soviet stock
Spliced Russian stock
War time Finnish spliced stock
Post war Finnish spliced stock
Front sight modification with top of Soviet globe cut off
M28/76

Made with M28/30 barrel
Made with new barrel
With scope
Miscellaneous

Ulaani carbine
Russian M1907 with Finnish marks
Soviet M38 with Finnish marks
Soviet M44 with Finnish marks
M85 sniper rifle
Other Countries Return to Top

Austria

Russian M91 or Dragoon with “AZF” mark
Russian M91 or Dragoon with “OEWG” mark
Russian M91 or Dragoon with “JSE” mark
Russian M91 or Dragoon with “Berndorfer Bear” mark
Russian M91 or Dragoon with “R” mark
Russian M91 or Dragoon with “WWF” mark
Russian M91 or Dragoon rechambered to 8X50R
Russian M91 or Dragoon with Austrian unit mark
Germany

Russian M91 or Dragoon with bayonet adapter
Russian M91 or Dragoon with Mauser style nosecap and bayonet lug
Russian M91 or Dragoon with “Deutschland” mark
Russian M91 or Dragoon with “Ad.Mz.DeutschR” mark
Russian M91 or Dragoon with “DEPOT CUST” mark
Russian M91 or Dragoon with “CTN DEUTSCH” mark
Russian M91 or Dragoon with “ART DEP CUSTR” mark
Russian M91 or Dragoon with “DEUTSCH REICH” stock mark
Russian M91 or Dragoon with “LT II in oval” mark
Russian M91 or Dragoon with German unit mark
East Germany

Soviet M91/30 sniper with East German marks
Soviet M91/30 with East German “triangle 1” mark
Soviet M38 with East German “triangle 1” mark
Soviet M44 with East German “triangle 1” mark
Poland

M91/98/23 8mm carbine
M91/98/25 8mm carbine
M91/98/26 8mm carbine
Polish M44
Hungary

Hungarian M44
Hungarian M91/30 with high wall round receiver
Hungarian M91/30 with low wall round receiver
Hungarian M91/30 PU sniper
Soviet M44 with Hungarian marks
Romania

Russian M91 with “crest of King Ferdinand” mark
Romanian M91/30
Romanian M44
Romanian M44 with “Bosnian shield” mark
Romanian M44 with “Instructie” marks
Russian M91 with “Instructie” marks
Russian M91 with “Exercitiu” marks
Soviet M91/30 with “Instructie” marks
Soviet M38 with “Instructie” marks
Soviet M44 with “Instructie” marks
Soviet M44 with “Exercitiu” marks
Polish M44 with “Instructie” marks
Hungarian M44 with “Instructie” marks
Russian M91 with Romanian spliced stock
Russian/Soviet Dragoon with Romanian spliced stock
Soviet M91/30 with Romanian spliced stock
China

T53 with “shi” test mark
T53 with “296” mark
T53 with “296” and 4 characters marks
T53 with “26” and 3 characters marks
T53 with “26 in a triangle” mark
T53 with tri-form bayonet
T53 built on a Soviet receiver
T53 with training marks and a hole in the top of the chamber
Albania

Albanian M91/30
Soviet sniper with Albanian stock
Soviet M44 with Albanian stock
Serbia

Russian M91 with “Crown” mark
Russian M91 with “C” mark
Montenegro

Russian M91 with “HI” mark
Bulgaria

Russian M91 or Dragoon with “Bulgarian Lion” mark
Russian M91 with “Bulgarian Pinecone” mark
Soviet M38 with “Bulgarian Pinecone” mark
Czechoslovakia

Russian M91 with Czech provincial mark
VZ54 Sniper
VZ54/91 Sniper
M91/38 with Chatellerault barrel
M91/38 with Tula barrel
M91/38 with Izhevsk barrel
M91/38 with Cossack barrel
M91/38 with Sestroryetsk barrel
M91/38 with Remington barrel
M91/38 with New England Westinghouse barrel
M91/38 with Czech stock
M91/59 with Czech stock
Soviet M44 with Czech stock
M91/38 with bayonet intact
North Korea

M91/30 with North Korean marks and/or U.S. capture papers
M44 with North Korean marks and/or U.S. capture papers
Vietnam

M91/30 with Vietnamese marks and/or U.S. capture papers
M44 with Vietnamese marks and/or U.S. capture papers
M44 with grenade launching spigot and sight
United States

M91 Military .30-'06 conversion
M91 Bannerman .30-'06 conversion, carbine
M91 Bannerman .30-'06 conversion, rifle
New England Westinghouse M91 with U.S. marks
Remington M91 with U.S. marks
M91 single shot training conversion
M91 with no serial numbers
Egypt and Syria

Soviet M91/30 with Arabic stock marks
Soviet M38 with Arabic stock marks
Soviet M44 with Arabic stock marks
Yugoslavia

Soviet M91/30 sniper
Soviet Tula M44 with “1.TRZ” mark
Soviet Izhevsk M44 with “1.TRZ” mark
Turkey

Russian M91 with Arabic numbered rear sight
Iran

Russian M91 with Persian marks
Belgium

Commercial 8mm conversion with “Blindee” proofs
Spain

Russian M91 with Spanish marks and/or modifications
Russian M91 with Spanish made stock
Russian/Soviet Dragoon with Spanish marks and/or modifications
Soviet M91/30 with Spanish marks and/or modifications
Latvia

Soviet Dragoon with F.L.P.Mi. mark
Soviet Dragoon with F.L.P.Riga mark
Soviet M91/30 with F.L.P.Mi. mark
Soviet M91/30 with F.L.P.Riga mark
Japan

Russian M91 captured during the Russo-Japanese War with Japanese marks
Russian M91 rechambed to 6.5 and modified for training (Arisaka style stock)
Russian (Remington) M91 Allied Intervention (Vladivostok) capture
Russian (Remington) M91 Allied Intervention (Vladivostok) capture converted to single shot
Unknown Origin

M91/59 Tula updated Dragoon
M91/59 Tula hex receiver
M91/59 Tula round low wall receiver
M91/59 Tula round high wall receiver
M91/59 Izhevsk updated Dragoon
M91/59 Izhevsk hex receiver
M91/59 Izhevsk round low wall receiver
M91/59 Izhevsk round high wall receiver
M91/59 with scrubbed barrel marks
M91/59 with MO marks
M91/59 ex-sniper
.410 gauge shotgun

[racerguy00]

More than that. There are some in the showcase that aren't on the list.

[Steve The Pirate]

That will keep you busy. You'll need to convert a barn into a gun safe.

[walnut red]

Does JYD know you cataloged his collection?

[Judi and her Mosins]

I would say we have a dozen RMNF memebers here that can match that list,...and add a few more also. Lets see those pictures guys. Judi and her Mosin's

[Junk Yard Dog]

The list is longer than that , just the number of wartime small changes seems to be endless, and it's complicated by the fact of the Soviets not telling us anything about these variations. That entire list is just from the observations of collectors, it is not from any official source as none such exists that we will ever be allowed to see.

[Miller Tyme]

I got one coming in today that isn't on the list, plus there are at least 3 different variations to the Siminov Trials Rifle and maybe as many as 6 from some accounts.

[zeebill]

Wow you know that is mind blowing! I feel old because I remember a figure of 297 different Mosins being bandied about when I started collecting these things too many years ago to list! Bill

[redeuce]

There lies the basic problem, and primary reason Mosinitis is incurable. Most novices begin thinking there are two Mosins. Round and hex. They purchase one of each, thinking they completed their collection. Then, they start to research, join this board, and by then it is too late.

[bunkysdad]

At least you can paste and copy. Back in my day of writing long lists like that this many errors would mean tossing the paper in the trash and writing the whole thing over.

[BubbaDX]

I am a long ways from completing that list.

[desdem12]

Every one is different so there is what 30-40 million variations?

[zeebill]

OLD Thread Revival!!!

Looking at some of the short rifle variations I have come across in the Kevin Carney collection we have been selling off we now realize that some of the selections in this list have variations to them and are often passed off by many as Bubba creations wrongly. Maybe it is time to be a bit more open minded in our branding of rifles we don't own or can't afford either. We recently got 5 guys with many years and a bit of knowledge in the general Mosin field together and looked at some of the shorter rifles from Kevin's collection and a few select others and One general thing I notes was we all look with a much less jaundiced eye at rifles we find these days. Just thought I would post this to kind of bring some of the guys to more awareness of the variety rifles in the Mosin arena. Bill

[SA1911a1]

I am still missing about three of them....

[zeebill]

Looking at some of the short rifle variations I have come across in the Kevin Carney collection we have been selling off we now realize that some of the selections in this list have variations to them and are often passed off by many as Bubba creations wrongly. Maybe it is time to be a bit more open minded in our branding of rifles we don't own or can't afford either. We recently got 5 guys with many years and a bit of knowledge in the general Mosin field together and looked at some of the shorter rifles from Kevin's collection and a few select others and One general thing I noted was we all look with a much less jaundiced eye at rifles we find these days. Just thought I would post this to kind of bring some of the guys to more awareness of the variety rifles in the Mosin arena. Bill

My comment is sort of directed to many people who think they have seen it all after maybe a year or two of looking at things and maybe need to temper their expert comments for a few more years of experience. This is not to say I know it all because for sure I don't but this last few years of looking at things I never had access to has opened my eyes to maybe things that others before us have refused to say existed (maybe because they did not own any) and are truly real and exist. Where this is leading I truly don't know and because of my older age will likely not live to see the overall results of it. Tantalizing subject for sure as it should lead us to more and more things often thrown away as bogus in the past. There are things indeed I have judged Bogus personally and chosen not collect that may after all have value and be learned from! Young'uns or Younguns you do indeed have a fascinating (although expensive) future ahead! so enjoy it! Bill

[Rongo]

I am a long ways from completing that list.

Join the club!

[entropy]

What do you need , 3 or 4 more, Ron?

[Darryl]

What do you need , 3 or 4 more, Ron?

He will always need "three or four more".

[capt14k]

Did I miss a post? Where are the 327 variations listed?


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[Lavitias]

The variations is that huge wall of text in the first post capt. But lets face it you don't make over 17 million guns without some variation haha.